Hutchinson The Sailor Man

[Debra A]

Were there TWO George Hutchinsons witnessing? Because one has already been found and ID:d via his signature...

It's always a niggle when one can't be definitely ruled out because I still think the sister of Ambrose, Auntie of George, was very close too!

[Fisherman]

Ask Ed...he started this thread!

You are correct, as always. I know who he favours for the role, though...

I think he started the thread to help out with an identification, not because he was very impressed with this sailor.

[DJA]

Trained to have a military appearance and would have made a very good personal groom.
Never married.
Had a child living with him. Parents from Primrose Street.

[Fisherman]

Trained to have a military appearance and would have made a very good personal groom.
Never married.
Had a child living with him. Parents from Primrose Street.

I´m sure he´s got all it takes to battle it out for second place.

[DJA]

Behind Henry Gawen Sutton

[Joshua Rogan]

He was only little, 4ft 11" at age 16 but maybe he hadn't finished growing by then!

If he was still that short in 1888 he wouldn't have needed to stoop down to see under Astrakhan Man's hat brim

[DJA]

Were there TWO George Hutchinsons witnessing? Because one has already been found and ID:d via his signature...

Toppy and the "witness" of the night/morning of Mary Kelly's demise have different signatures.

[MysterySinger]

So not Toppy then. I think Hutch was a vagrant.

[Debra A]

So not Toppy then. I think Hutch was a vagrant.

Yes MS, I think he might be the groom listed in the Newington workhouse vagrant (casual) ward that Pat once found too. Most of the lodging house class who weren't in regular employment but who relied on travelling from place to place looking for a days work, or worked in the crop fields or were hawkers etc. would use the causual wards when on their travels.

[Fisherman]

Behind Henry Gawen Sutton

...who needs to be on the list, because...???

[Fisherman]

Toppy and the "witness" of the night/morning of Mary Kelly's demise have different signatures.

Of course, since all signatures vary, even your own ones, to some degree - but they were nevertheless similar enough for Frank Leander to make the call that they were probably signed by the same man.

Done deal, case over for me.

[DJA]

Because he was Jack the Ripper.
Reckon he enlisted Hutchinson as a lookout.

[DJA]

Probably!!?
Toppy was never unemployed and living at the Victoria Working Men's Home.
Where would he have gained his military bearing?
Part of his plumbing apprenticeship

[MysterySinger]

Yes MS, I think he might be the groom listed in the Newington workhouse vagrant (casual) ward that Pat once found too. Most of the lodging house class who weren't in regular employment but who relied on travelling from place to place looking for a days work, or worked in the crop fields or were hawkers etc. would use the causual wards when on their travels.

Yes Debra it's this one which seems to fit (for the benefit of others).

[Fisherman]

Because he was Jack the Ripper.
Reckon he enlisted Hutchinson as a lookout.

He was Jack the Ripper because...?