Ben writes:
"I completely disregard what you assert to be "not true", since you're allowing your opinion to mutate into fact"
That is a strange attitude - especially since the left leg of the "n" in the "son" in "Hutchinson" HAS a totally different leaning than the one in Toppys signature, where the leg is in accordance with the police report signature.
"The left leg of Toppy's "n" doesn't lean at all in the 1911 signature, so I've no idea where you're going with that observation."
You wanna bet? Have another check, Ben, and THEN tell me that Lambeth mans "n" corresponds well with the police report. It does not. This is further born out by the text "Russell Gardens" where Lambeth man treats the "n" in Gardens in the exact same fashion - it leans almost backwards, and that is something that Toppy OR the police report signatures donīt come close to in any instance.
"yes, I became frustrated and went overboard in stating they aren't remotely "alike". I'd retract that, of course"
Good man!
"it's certainly no more acceptable to assert as "fact" that they are "remarkably similiar."
Well, Ben, as I utterly refute that the matter is one that lends itself to opinions, feelings and hunches, I actually wiew it as a fact and nothing else. Then again, the question could be raised what "remarkably" stands for, and that would of course be hard to establish in an exact fashion. Disregarding that, I still say that Sams verdict that Toppys handwriting is markedly closer to the police report signatures than Lambeth mansīis merely establishing a definitive fact. The clearest example of it is offered by a comparison between signature number three in the police protocol and Toppys 1911 signature. Lambeth manīs differently leaning "n":s, his low-cup "u":s, his leaving out the stem of the "t", just to exemplify, puts it all beyond question.
Once again - I am not being disrespectful when stating this. This is one of those rare moments when the saying "the writing is on the wall" applies extremely well. I would be disrespectful towards the evidence not to acknowledge it.
The best, Ben!
Fisherman
"I completely disregard what you assert to be "not true", since you're allowing your opinion to mutate into fact"
That is a strange attitude - especially since the left leg of the "n" in the "son" in "Hutchinson" HAS a totally different leaning than the one in Toppys signature, where the leg is in accordance with the police report signature.
"The left leg of Toppy's "n" doesn't lean at all in the 1911 signature, so I've no idea where you're going with that observation."
You wanna bet? Have another check, Ben, and THEN tell me that Lambeth mans "n" corresponds well with the police report. It does not. This is further born out by the text "Russell Gardens" where Lambeth man treats the "n" in Gardens in the exact same fashion - it leans almost backwards, and that is something that Toppy OR the police report signatures donīt come close to in any instance.
"yes, I became frustrated and went overboard in stating they aren't remotely "alike". I'd retract that, of course"
Good man!
"it's certainly no more acceptable to assert as "fact" that they are "remarkably similiar."
Well, Ben, as I utterly refute that the matter is one that lends itself to opinions, feelings and hunches, I actually wiew it as a fact and nothing else. Then again, the question could be raised what "remarkably" stands for, and that would of course be hard to establish in an exact fashion. Disregarding that, I still say that Sams verdict that Toppys handwriting is markedly closer to the police report signatures than Lambeth mansīis merely establishing a definitive fact. The clearest example of it is offered by a comparison between signature number three in the police protocol and Toppys 1911 signature. Lambeth manīs differently leaning "n":s, his low-cup "u":s, his leaving out the stem of the "t", just to exemplify, puts it all beyond question.
Once again - I am not being disrespectful when stating this. This is one of those rare moments when the saying "the writing is on the wall" applies extremely well. I would be disrespectful towards the evidence not to acknowledge it.
The best, Ben!
Fisherman
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