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  • Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    I agree. He is just a serial killer. Who cares really.

    And when Iīm finished with this, perhaps all we will have is...silence.

    Pierre
    Hi Pierre,

    Do you believe Alice McKenzie was a victim of "your" suspect?

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    • It is pretty clear the the " Grampton " folk got the feeling that information had been leak to Pierre.
      There can be only one explanation for this.
      Whilst Pierre's list of reasons or hints was obscure to most of us.; it must have ticked many boxes with the "gramps". Indeed I would assume that they are looking at the same theory.

      Indeed both Pierre and they have suggested that if announced now evidence could dissappear

      So Pierre who is going to steal whose thunder?

      I can think of no other reason why they would break their "non disclosure order".
      To use such a term which has its roots in the law, in a situation like this is laughable.

      This is a dead century old case which as Brenda says is of interest to very few. I do admit that the few are very passionate about it!

      It would seem from the limited leaks that we are looking at some type of conspiracy.
      One of the group has suggested in the recent past a poltical motive which would I guess tie in.

      Indeed both Pierre and they have suggested that if announced now, evidence could dissappear .

      It's so obvious that this to quote another " it's just too big"
      It will obviously change history. I think not!
      Last edited by Elamarna; 11-21-2015, 02:17 PM.

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      • .

        Originally posted by Elamarna View Post

        It will obviously change history. I think not!
        Nope. Even the huge discovery of Richard III's body and the fact that his DNA doesn't match the royal line couldn't capture the general public's interest for much over a few days. The only people still talking are probably the Richard III Society and a handful of hobbyists.

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        • I don't believe Pierre's suspect has anything to do with the Grampton Solution, but I wish him lots of luck with his research.
          Sincerely.
          Lots of luck.

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          • Originally posted by Brenda View Post

            I think what really annoys me is the attitude of self-importance. It's an old murder case, but some act like they are sitting on the cure for cancer.
            Yes, I agree. However, you will find the same thing in any fandom or hobby. (Some of the "Star Wars" fans are dissecting a battery commercial for clues to the forthcoming movie, for instance!)

            I enjoy reading about the research others have done, and trying to use clues for my own curious forays. I've learned that the Bronte family name was originally Brunty, until Patrick the senior changed the spelling. I found out about Dr. Crampton, and his descendant, the engineer and inventor. I've also learned that some Gramptons once ran a windmill that later became a poorhouse. None of it related to the idenity of Jack the Ripper, but interesting, all the same.
            Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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            Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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            • I've learned that the Bronte family name was originally Brunty
              Really? thats interesting. I live near Brunty country.

              Its sad though that i trawled through hundreds of posts on this thread and this is the only interesting thing ive learnt but never mind.

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              • Dear Purkis.

                Thank you for clarifing that you don't think there is a link between Pierre and Grampton.
                Considering that you said it was in anyone's interest to discuss the matter one assumes you are part of the group

                Two points however:

                1. someone obviously did that being Pinkmoon. Who would appear from the posts to be a senior member of the Grampton group.

                2. I note it is no longer a theory but a solution! My my some people are very confident.
                What do they have a signed confession?

                Considering your previous post I do not expect any answer for some months.
                Last edited by Elamarna; 11-21-2015, 04:38 PM. Reason: misspellings

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                • As one of the Grampton six, I'm gutted as all I was asked to do was check certain archives.

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                  • Originally posted by jerryd View Post
                    Hi Pierre,

                    Do you believe Alice McKenzie was a victim of "your" suspect?
                    Hi,

                    As far as one of my sources are concearned I think she was. James Monro also believed she was a victim of Jack the Ripper.

                    Regards Pierre

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                    • Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
                      It is pretty clear the the " Grampton " folk got the feeling that information had been leak to Pierre.
                      There can be only one explanation for this.
                      Whilst Pierre's list of reasons or hints was obscure to most of us.; it must have ticked many boxes with the "gramps".

                      Or at least they might have interpreted it in that way.

                      Indeed I would assume that they are looking at the same theory.

                      I think the probability for that is extremely low.

                      Indeed both Pierre and they have suggested that if announced now evidence could dissappear

                      I do not believe it is same pieces of evidence.

                      So Pierre who is going to steal whose thunder?

                      No. I wish them luck with their research.

                      I can think of no other reason why they would break their "non disclosure order".
                      To use such a term which has its roots in the law, in a situation like this is laughable.

                      This is a dead century old case which as Brenda says is of interest to very few. I do admit that the few are very passionate about it!

                      It would seem from the limited leaks that we are looking at some type of conspiracy.

                      Well, first of all, I do not "leak" but try to discuss different matters with people. Pinkmoon, who I donīt know, started the talk about Grampton. Whatever that is.

                      One of the group has suggested in the recent past a poltical motive which would I guess tie in.

                      The person I believe to be the killer had no political motive. That is a misinterpretation some people have made. He had his own very egoistic motives.

                      Indeed both Pierre and they have suggested that if announced now, evidence could dissappear .

                      I am beeing careful even if it is leading nowhere.

                      It's so obvious that this to quote another " it's just too big"
                      It will obviously change history. I think not!
                      Well, in my case, changing history is just changing history and nothing more.

                      Regards Pierre

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                      • Pierre

                        Your comments are welcome.
                        I was not suggesting you had leaked, that was aim at others. May I say you have most certainly leaked nothing.

                        So you feel that all the evidence could dissappear or am I miss understanding you?

                        Regards

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                        • Dear Brenda

                          My understand of the Richard III DNA was that the mDna showed a link from the sisters descendents to the bone. The y chromosome show a break but this was a modern sample from a branch of the plata genes family. There was a break but no way of knowing when. So maybe no a break in rule line.

                          Anyway that's off topic but obviously interesting to both of us

                          Regards
                          E

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                          • Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
                            Pierre

                            Your comments are welcome.
                            I was not suggesting you had leaked, that was aim at others. May I say you have most certainly leaked nothing.

                            So you feel that all the evidence could dissappear or am I miss understanding you?

                            Regards
                            Hi Elamarna,

                            No, all the evidence can not disappear since some of it is in the newspapers and some of it is already known. But some small important piece that I donīt have at the moment could.

                            Regards Pierre

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                            • Originally posted by Pierre View Post

                              No, all the evidence can not disappear since some of it is in the newspapers and some of it is already known. But some small important piece that I donīt have at the moment could.
                              Is the 'confession' safe, Pierre?

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                              • "Grampton" a wild goose chase for me

                                Originally posted by Panderoona View Post
                                As one of the Grampton six, I'm gutted as all I was asked to do was check certain archives.
                                I'm glad you have the right information, Panderoona.

                                "Grampton" as a surname turned up little, the most interesting being a 1928 song called "Ode to Grampton" referring to "Otto" on his Honda motorcycle.

                                "Grampton" as a place name in the U.K's National Archives did turn up two very old mentions to Huntingdonshire, but absolutely nothing on the open web. Does the place even exist today? I doubt it.

                                "Grampton Convalescent Home" is a no go in the National Archives.

                                I think the average Casebook reader will not, as feared by some here, be able to find anything from the "leaks" on this thread, and you should be able to rest easy until the revelation is made at a later date.
                                Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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                                Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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