I think I have found him.

[Hercule Poirot]

Can you libel the dead in the UK? you can't in the US.

Descendents of any pseudo suspect can sue for libel if the reputation of their family is considered to be attacked even if the dead ancestor is the one directly concerned. It's accepted in the USA, Canada and UK.

[RivkahChaya]

Descendents of any pseudo suspect can sue for libel if the reputation of their family is considered to be attacked even if the dead ancestor is the one directly concerned. It's accepted in the USA, Canada and UK.

Way to quote my smilies out of context. Those were for the Anderson joke.

[GUT]

Way to quote my smilies out of context. Those were for the Anderson joke.

To be fair to HP that sometimes happens, simply because when you quote the quotes within the post you quote don't carry forward,

[GUT]

Descendents of any pseudo suspect can sue for libel if the reputation of their family is considered to be attacked even if the dead ancestor is the one directly concerned. It's accepted in the USA, Canada and UK.

I'm not so sure about that.

I understand you can in some US states.

However

http://blogs.lexisnexis.co.uk/wipit/can-you-defame-the-dead/

is an interesting read.

[Hercule Poirot]

I'm not so sure about that.

I understand you can in some US states.

However

http://blogs.lexisnexis.co.uk/wipit/can-you-defame-the-dead/

is an interesting read.

You're right. I should have pointed out that in the USA, it's not a federal domain. Defamation is covered by States civil or criminal laws and not all the states have both sides.

There a subtility in the 'right' to sue. If it's strickly the dead person who's 'attacked', it's refused because it's usually considered to be an opinion based on historical data. But if a relation between the dead and the descendents is made, that's where they are considered to be attacked directly by the comment made. So if some says something like "It goes way back in the family" or allows others to come to that conclusion given a remark made, he might be in serious trouble. Let's not forget, that the cost of the legal procedures, defense, etc, can ruin in you before the actual trial.

Cheers,
Hercule Poirot (not to be confused with HP sauce). LOL

[Varqm]

shhhhshhh...

Who was that Pierre?

Oh Hutchinson.


There you go guys, it's Hutchinson.

[GUT]

You're right. I should have pointed out that in the USA, it's not a federal domain. Defamation is covered by States civil or criminal laws and not all the states have both sides.

There a subtility in the 'right' to sue. If it's strickly the dead person who's 'attacked', it's refused because it's usually considered to be an opinion based on historical data. But if a relation between the dead and the descendents is made, that's where they are considered to be attacked directly by the comment made. So if some says something like "It goes way back in the family" or allows others to come to that conclusion given a remark made, he might be in serious trouble. Let's not forget, that the cost of the legal procedures, defense, etc, can ruin in you before the actual trial.

Cheers,
Hercule Poirot (not to be confused with HP sauce). LOL

Well lawyers are human (sort of) and need to eat too.

[curious4]

Lechmere? Fisherman would be Cross!

C4

[Andrea_P]

Wow this has been an interesting thread, I am new to the site myself and ripperology and haven't yet made up my mind on which suspect I prefer, would be interesting to find out what Pierre actually has

[richardnunweek]

Hi Andrea,
Welcome to Casebook. yes indeed, it would be interesting to see what Pierre has to offer,I wait with baited breath.
Regards Richard,

[Harry D]

I must be the only one who thinks the whole thing is a mickey-take by an attention-seeker.

[RivkahChaya]

I must be the only one who thinks the whole thing is a mickey-take by an attention-seeker.

No, you're not.

Lechmere? Fisherman would be Cross!

C4

I see what you did there.

Hi Andrea,
Welcome to Casebook. yes indeed, it would be interesting to see what Pierre has to offer,I wait with baited breath.
Regards Richard,

With worms on his tongue.

[The Good Michael]

I must be the only one who thinks the whole thing is a mickey-take by an attention-seeker.

Not so. The guy's full of feces. He's stringing the gullible along with him as he carries on with his air of superiority. He reminds me a weird guy a few years ago who claimed he was going on some wild book-signing tour because he and his minions had uncovered evidence that PC Harvey was the ripper. He strung many along with him. Finally, his nonsense amounted to the nonsense everyone should have seen in the beginning and he was left as nothing more than a pompous Dalek collector (true). Even if Pierre somehow had the holy grail of ripper info, the way he has begun driving his BS coach makes him irritating at the very least and condescending and smug as a high probability. I'm just here to mess with him and anyone else who would act like that. See me previous post here for more proof that I am on board your train.

Mike

[Shaggyrand]

I must be the only one who thinks the whole thing is a mickey-take by an attention-seeker.

Nope. The phrasings, hinting at something that is lookin like a Ripper Theory Greatest Hits blended together (conspiracy, well know suspect & the threat of TROUBLE over it), superior confrontational tone without anything added to the discussion or even a hint toward where to start... It makes my bullshit-sense tingle. Hey, if you find something new great, you want folks to "do their own research" great but if this is a grossly overlooked starting point you have... Maybe a little nudge toward it? Oh wait. There is nothing to start with, just interporn trolling.
I'll read his theory if it ever comes to light and admire his dedication to the joke.

[The Good Michael]

In addition, there was the one-time actress Fiona Kendall who came out here talking about a book she was writing (she never finished) about her great grand-father John McCarthy, and she behaved like a socialite showing off her baubles to the servants. She came out and said that OF COURSE her John Mccarthy knew who the ripper was. They all knew who the ripper was. When she wasn't forthcoming with any information, I came out and said something about when people dangle a piece of fish in front of me, it often smells of kippers. A friendly dig and she was indignantly outraged and never came back, and presumably because she was full of crap as well.

Mike