Suspect battle: Cross/Lechmere vs. Hutchinson

[Columbo]

shame on you..

forget about me, go and try to build a case against a mad jew ...

or maybe against an american quack...

or a sailor who traveled to argentina...

or a cricket player whom after a month of kelly's murder thought he was going to be like his mum and threw himself in the water...

thats better for you

Actually I think people have already done that. It doesn't make them right.

Most of the one's you mentioned were considered suspects at the time. Charles Lechmere wasn't.

Keep trollin'. I'm sure most posters here have forgotten you as you asked.

Columbo

[Columbo]

Well
Also Hutch was engaging in stalking behavior, had no real excuse for being there, and conveniently shows up right after the inquest is over.

He makes a much better suspect than lech imho.

The stalking behavior never occurred to me. Excellent point.

Columbo

[Elamarna]

shame on you..

forget about me, go and try to build a case against a mad jew ...

or maybe against an american quack...

or a sailor who traveled to argentina...

or a cricket player whom after a month of kelly's murder thought he was going to be like his mum and threw himself in the water...

thats better for you

Rainbow,

instead of hurling insults and making accusations, why not just answer the question I asked you?

Or is it the comment posted by Columbo true,

no reply will assume so and so will everyone else I am sure


bye


Steve

[GUT]

shame on you..

forget about me, go and try to build a case against a mad jew ...

or maybe against an american quack...

or a sailor who traveled to argentina...

or a cricket player whom after a month of kelly's murder thought he was going to be like his mum and threw himself in the water...

thats better for you

Well where do the three minutes come from.

[Rainbow]

shame on you..

forget about me, go and try to build a case against a mad jew ...

or maybe against an american quack...

or a sailor who traveled to argentina...

or a cricket player whom after a month of kelly's murder thought he was going to be like his mum and threw himself in the water...

thats better for you

[Pcdunn]

"Grasshopper" Rainbow has the conviction of youth, and thinks the television film has explained it all, I venture to say. I think the chances he/she has read any of the original sources regarding Cross/ Lechmere are very slim.

The three-minute blocks of time may have come from the Lechmere documentary or perhaps from some of Fisherman's writings on this forum.

[John Wheat]

I see now where your and others problem comes from..

It is not Lechmere found a body on his way to work..

Its Paul who found a body and a man standing by this body on his way to work....

that makes all the difference......

No Lechmere did find a body on the way to work. Paul later joined Lechmere in looking at the body. You can't convict a man merely for finding a body and looking at it. Nothing whatsoever suggests Lechmere was JTR.

[Abby Normal]

She/He's not going to tell you. by the tone of his/her posts I would bet this is a JTR troll trying to get people riled up. Same old stuff we've seen in other threads ad nauseum.

There are two parallels for Lechmere and Hutchinson in my opinion. They both allegedly lied about something in their statements. Lechmere (to some) may have lied about his name. Hutchinson (I believe) lied about Astrakhan man. He knew the victim and places himself there late at night not too long before the estimated time of death.

The reason I think he lied about Astrakhan man is the standard. too many details in too short a time in minimal lighting. Couple that with the fact no one else reported seeing him. The cops with Hutchinson in tow, couldn't locate him and he was dropped immediately from the investigation.

Columbo

Well
Also Hutch was engaging in stalking behavior, had no real excuse for being there, and conveniently shows up right after the inquest is over.

He makes a much better suspect than lech imho.

[drstrange169]

Charles Lechmere is a person of interest but, yet again, we see people distorting the known evidence to elevate him to suspect status.

What two sets of three minutes?

Where and when did Paul specifically say he didn't hear footsteps?

If Mrs Nichols was bleeding when the two carmen examined her, why didn't they say so?

If Xmere was standing "where the body was" why did Paul say he "went with him" to look at the body?

The quote cited in post 469 is an excerpt from The Lloyds Weekly, an article known to be an incorrect version of what happened that night.

If we are to believe that particular article, then we have to accept Xmere did not lie to PC Mizen, as Paul claimed he was the one that spoke to Mizen.

Lechmere is interesting as a potential suspect, but the theory falls over every time someone tries to cherrypick a case against him.

[Elamarna]

She/He's not going to tell you. by the tone of his/her posts I would bet this is a JTR troll trying to get people riled up. Same old stuff we've seen in other threads ad nauseum.

There are two parallels for Lechmere and Hutchinson in my opinion. They both allegedly lied about something in their statements. Lechmere (to some) may have lied about his name. Hutchinson (I believe) lied about Astrakhan man. He knew the victim and places himself there late at night not too long before the estimated time of death.

The reason I think he lied about Astrakhan man is the standard. too many details in too short a time in minimal lighting. Couple that with the fact no one else reported seeing him. The cops with Hutchinson in tow, couldn't locate him and he was dropped immediately from the investigation.

Columbo

I agree wit you on every point including that rainbow will not say.


steve

[Columbo]

and what the hell do you want a killer to say huh ?!

that I was mutilating her when I heared Paul approaching, so I pulled the dress down over the wounds and stood up ?!

There was no way to hunt a serial kilker at that time till you catch him red handed, no suspect ever will come even close to Lechmere from this aspect, he was standing by a freshly bleeding and recently murdered woman, not finishing his mutilation, and Paul didn't hear him walking.

not saying that he gave a different name too.

and you want us to believe in Druitt guilt or kosminski ... those poor persons that have nothing connecting them to any murder what so ever

Nichlos must have spoken to the murderer, there were at least 3 minutes communication before the sudden attack of Lechmere which last for another 3 minutes minimum, then 3 minutes till Paul come close... and she was still bleeding by the feet of Lechmere...

Read the other threads and you'll be more informed. They didn't know they were hunting a multiple murderer.

Columbo

[Columbo]

Hi Rainbow,

in post 462 you gave some very clear timings for the murder of Nichiols, I asked how you came to these conclusions?

you have not answered,

So I ask again where do you get the timings from? or have you simply invented them?


Steve

She/He's not going to tell you. by the tone of his/her posts I would bet this is a JTR troll trying to get people riled up. Same old stuff we've seen in other threads ad nauseum.

There are two parallels for Lechmere and Hutchinson in my opinion. They both allegedly lied about something in their statements. Lechmere (to some) may have lied about his name. Hutchinson (I believe) lied about Astrakhan man. He knew the victim and places himself there late at night not too long before the estimated time of death.

The reason I think he lied about Astrakhan man is the standard. too many details in too short a time in minimal lighting. Couple that with the fact no one else reported seeing him. The cops with Hutchinson in tow, couldn't locate him and he was dropped immediately from the investigation.

Columbo

[Elamarna]

Sorry hadn't seen that Steve was already onto the three minutes times three.

Hi GUT,

no problem i don't think Rainbow wants to answer.


Steve

[GUT]

Sorry hadn't seen that Steve was already onto the three minutes times three.

[GUT]

and what the hell do you want a killer to say huh ?!

that I was mutilating her when I heared Paul approaching, so I pulled the dress down over the wounds and stood up ?!

There was no way to hunt a serial kilker at that time till you catch him red handed, no suspect ever will come even close to Lechmere from this aspect, he was standing by a freshly bleeding and recently murdered woman, not finishing his mutilation, and Paul didn't hear him walking.

not saying that he gave a different name too.

and you want us to believe in Druitt guilt or kosminski ... those poor persons that have nothing connecting them to any murder what so ever

Nichlos must have spoken to the murderer, there were at least 3 minutes communication before the sudden attack of Lechmere which last for another 3 minutes minimum, then 3 minutes till Paul come close... and she was still bleeding by the feet of Lechmere...

Where do you get all these three minute blocks from.