Suspect battle: Cross/Lechmere vs. Hutchinson

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  • Elamarna
    Commissioner
    • Sep 2014
    • 5807

    #466
    Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
    Nichlos must have spoken to the murderer, there were at least 3 minutes communication before the sudden attack of Lechmere
    How do you know this?

    What are you basing that statement on please?


    Originally posted by Rainbow View Post

    which last for another 3 minutes minimum,

    Again, how do you know this?


    Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
    then 3 minutes till Paul come close... and she was still bleeding by the feet of Lechmere...

    Once again where do you get this figure of 3 minutes from?





    with interest


    Steve

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    • Rainbow
      Suspended
      • Jan 2014
      • 284

      #467
      Those who choose to belive there was a phantom killer who butchered Nichols .. and while he was mutilating her, he was interrubted by Lenchmer, who the also wanted to approach the body, and while he was trying to do so he was then also interrupted by Paul.....

      its more like a football match here... three players running after the same ball....

      ... not an empty dark and calm street, at a very early hour in the morning, where no one even Paul heared a thing, not even the foot steps of two assumed players, captin Jack , and the lated to work but curious to discover objects on the way .. Lechmere

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      • Elamarna
        Commissioner
        • Sep 2014
        • 5807

        #468
        Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
        Those who choose to belive there was a phantom killer who butchered Nichols .. and while he was mutilating her, he was interrubted by Lenchmer, who the also wanted to approach the body, and while he was trying to do so he was then also interrupted by Paul.....

        its more like a football match here... three players running after the same ball....

        ... not an empty dark and calm street, at a very early hour in the morning, where no one even Paul heared a thing, not even the foot steps of two assumed players, captin Jack , and the lated to work but curious to discover objects on the way .. Lechmere
        Rainbow


        is that a reply to my post #466 or just a general one.


        I would again ask where you got the figures for the timings you quote from?


        regards


        Steve

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        • Rainbow
          Suspended
          • Jan 2014
          • 284

          #469
          Paul said:

          "It was exactly a quarter to four when I passed up Buck's-row in my work as a carman for Covent-garden market. It was dark, and I was hurrying along, when I saw a man standing where the woman was"

          Paul was in a hurry, Lechmere has no chance to flee.. it was too late ...

          Paul saw a man standing where the woman was ( the woman whom is still bleeding ) !!

          even without Lechmere giving a false name, he is the one and only suspect in this whole case

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          • Elamarna
            Commissioner
            • Sep 2014
            • 5807

            #470
            Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
            Paul said:

            "It was exactly a quarter to four when I passed up Buck's-row in my work as a carman for Covent-garden market. It was dark, and I was hurrying along, when I saw a man standing where the woman was"

            Paul was in a hurry, Lechmere has no chance to flee.. it was too late ...

            Paul saw a man standing where the woman was ( the woman whom is still bleeding ) !!

            even without Lechmere giving a false name, he is the one and only suspect in this whole case

            Dear Rainbow,

            All I am asking is for you to tell us where the 3 timings you gave came from?

            Steve

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            • Abby Normal
              Commissioner
              • Jun 2010
              • 11939

              #471
              Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
              Paul said:

              "It was exactly a quarter to four when I passed up Buck's-row in my work as a carman for Covent-garden market. It was dark, and I was hurrying along, when I saw a man standing where the woman was"

              Paul was in a hurry, Lechmere has no chance to flee.. it was too late ...

              Paul saw a man standing where the woman was ( the woman whom is still bleeding ) !!

              even without Lechmere giving a false name, he is the one and only suspect in this whole case
              to be quite honest, this is one little post pretty much sums up concisely the validity of lech as a suspect in Nichols murder.
              "Is all that we see or seem
              but a dream within a dream?"

              -Edgar Allan Poe


              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

              -Frederick G. Abberline

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              • John Wheat
                Assistant Commissioner
                • Jul 2008
                • 3397

                #472
                Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
                Lechmere is the only suspect we can build a case against him in court.

                others are even not considered to be suspects at all...
                No Bury is the only suspect you could build a case against in court. Lechmere found a body on the way to work. So what? Some people have obviously swallowed Fisherman's lies and bullshit.

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                • Rainbow
                  Suspended
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 284

                  #473
                  Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
                  Lechmere found a body on the way to work. So what? Some people have obviously swallowed Fisherman's lies and bullshit.
                  I see now where your and others problem comes from..

                  It is not Lechmere found a body on his way to work..

                  Its Paul who found a body and a man standing by this body on his way to work....

                  that makes all the difference......

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                  • Elamarna
                    Commissioner
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 5807

                    #474
                    Hi Rainbow,

                    in post 462 you gave some very clear timings for the murder of Nichiols, I asked how you came to these conclusions?

                    you have not answered,

                    So I ask again where do you get the timings from? or have you simply invented them?


                    Steve

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                    • GUT
                      Commissioner
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 7841

                      #475
                      Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
                      and what the hell do you want a killer to say huh ?!

                      that I was mutilating her when I heared Paul approaching, so I pulled the dress down over the wounds and stood up ?!

                      There was no way to hunt a serial kilker at that time till you catch him red handed, no suspect ever will come even close to Lechmere from this aspect, he was standing by a freshly bleeding and recently murdered woman, not finishing his mutilation, and Paul didn't hear him walking.

                      not saying that he gave a different name too.

                      and you want us to believe in Druitt guilt or kosminski ... those poor persons that have nothing connecting them to any murder what so ever

                      Nichlos must have spoken to the murderer, there were at least 3 minutes communication before the sudden attack of Lechmere which last for another 3 minutes minimum, then 3 minutes till Paul come close... and she was still bleeding by the feet of Lechmere...
                      Where do you get all these three minute blocks from.
                      G U T

                      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                      • GUT
                        Commissioner
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 7841

                        #476
                        Sorry hadn't seen that Steve was already onto the three minutes times three.
                        G U T

                        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                        • Elamarna
                          Commissioner
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 5807

                          #477
                          Originally posted by GUT View Post
                          Sorry hadn't seen that Steve was already onto the three minutes times three.
                          Hi GUT,

                          no problem i don't think Rainbow wants to answer.


                          Steve

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                          • Columbo
                            Sergeant
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 811

                            #478
                            Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
                            Hi Rainbow,

                            in post 462 you gave some very clear timings for the murder of Nichiols, I asked how you came to these conclusions?

                            you have not answered,

                            So I ask again where do you get the timings from? or have you simply invented them?


                            Steve
                            She/He's not going to tell you. by the tone of his/her posts I would bet this is a JTR troll trying to get people riled up. Same old stuff we've seen in other threads ad nauseum.

                            There are two parallels for Lechmere and Hutchinson in my opinion. They both allegedly lied about something in their statements. Lechmere (to some) may have lied about his name. Hutchinson (I believe) lied about Astrakhan man. He knew the victim and places himself there late at night not too long before the estimated time of death.

                            The reason I think he lied about Astrakhan man is the standard. too many details in too short a time in minimal lighting. Couple that with the fact no one else reported seeing him. The cops with Hutchinson in tow, couldn't locate him and he was dropped immediately from the investigation.

                            Columbo

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                            • Columbo
                              Sergeant
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 811

                              #479
                              Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
                              and what the hell do you want a killer to say huh ?!

                              that I was mutilating her when I heared Paul approaching, so I pulled the dress down over the wounds and stood up ?!

                              There was no way to hunt a serial kilker at that time till you catch him red handed, no suspect ever will come even close to Lechmere from this aspect, he was standing by a freshly bleeding and recently murdered woman, not finishing his mutilation, and Paul didn't hear him walking.

                              not saying that he gave a different name too.

                              and you want us to believe in Druitt guilt or kosminski ... those poor persons that have nothing connecting them to any murder what so ever

                              Nichlos must have spoken to the murderer, there were at least 3 minutes communication before the sudden attack of Lechmere which last for another 3 minutes minimum, then 3 minutes till Paul come close... and she was still bleeding by the feet of Lechmere...
                              Read the other threads and you'll be more informed. They didn't know they were hunting a multiple murderer.

                              Columbo

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                              • Elamarna
                                Commissioner
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 5807

                                #480
                                Originally posted by Columbo View Post
                                She/He's not going to tell you. by the tone of his/her posts I would bet this is a JTR troll trying to get people riled up. Same old stuff we've seen in other threads ad nauseum.

                                There are two parallels for Lechmere and Hutchinson in my opinion. They both allegedly lied about something in their statements. Lechmere (to some) may have lied about his name. Hutchinson (I believe) lied about Astrakhan man. He knew the victim and places himself there late at night not too long before the estimated time of death.

                                The reason I think he lied about Astrakhan man is the standard. too many details in too short a time in minimal lighting. Couple that with the fact no one else reported seeing him. The cops with Hutchinson in tow, couldn't locate him and he was dropped immediately from the investigation.

                                Columbo

                                I agree wit you on every point including that rainbow will not say.


                                steve

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