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  • Fiver
    Assistant Commissioner
    • Oct 2019
    • 3463

    #31
    David Cohen
    George Capel Scudamore Lechmere
    James Kelly
    Thomas Cutbush
    James Hardiman
    "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

    "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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    • Herlock Sholmes
      Commissioner
      • May 2017
      • 23247

      #32
      Originally posted by Fiver View Post
      David Cohen
      George Capel Scudamore Lechmere
      James Kelly
      Thomas Cutbush
      James Hardiman
      Cheers Fiver
      Herlock Sholmes

      ”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”

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      • Herlock Sholmes
        Commissioner
        • May 2017
        • 23247

        #33
        Originally posted by Enigma View Post
        The Big Poll:-
        1. Anderson’s suspect
        2. Bury
        3. Cutbush
        4. Deeming
        5. Kelly
        6. Levy
        Sorry Enigma, I don’t know how I managed to miss your post but I did.

        Cheers
        Herlock Sholmes

        ”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”

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        • Lewis C
          Inspector
          • Dec 2022
          • 1352

          #34
          Originally posted by Doctored Whatsit View Post
          Sorry, but I genuinely don't have a real suspect! Nothing that I have seen steers me with any confidence towards truly suspecting any single individual. I recognise possibilities, persons of interest certainly, but no convincing suspect. If the truth ever does come out, I think it may well be someone we've never heard about.
          Hi Doc,

          If the poll were asking us to rank persons of interest rather than suspects, would you then be able to make list? In my discussion of the case, I tend to not distinguish between the two, though technically, there's a difference. All of my suspects are probably more properly called persons of interest rather than suspects.

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          • Lewis C
            Inspector
            • Dec 2022
            • 1352

            #35
            I have a suggestion for the tabulation of the results: if 2 suspects have the same number of points but one was mentioned on more ballots than the other, rank the one on more ballots ahead of the other.

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            • Herlock Sholmes
              Commissioner
              • May 2017
              • 23247

              #36
              Originally posted by Lewis C View Post
              I have a suggestion for the tabulation of the results: if 2 suspects have the same number of points but one was mentioned on more ballots than the other, rank the one on more ballots ahead of the other.
              Good suggestion Lewis. I’ll go with that.

              In cricket we have the Duckworth Lewis method of deciding the result of a game that’s been cut short by rain. This one is just The Lewis Method.
              Last edited by Herlock Sholmes; Yesterday, 06:23 PM.
              Herlock Sholmes

              ”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”

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              • Doctored Whatsit
                Sergeant
                • May 2021
                • 816

                #37
                Originally posted by Lewis C View Post

                Hi Doc,

                If the poll were asking us to rank persons of interest rather than suspects, would you then be able to make list? In my discussion of the case, I tend to not distinguish between the two, though technically, there's a difference. All of my suspects are probably more properly called persons of interest rather than suspects.
                Interesting suggestion, Lewis, especially noting that you regard your "suspects" as more like "persons of interest".

                My problem is that I can't help seeing JtR as not just a cold blooded killer, which others do, but as one who knew exactly what he was doing, as if he had done it many times before. He was highly skilled with a very sharp knife 6-8 inches or longer - that is a fairly rare talent. That, coupled with the fact the he used the m. o. of an experienced slaughterer with the throat slitting and the clear understanding of how to do it while avoiding getting blood on his person, plus the speed at which he worked, the fact that he seemed to know where various organs were, and how to remove them, convinces me that he had a fair amount of experience as a butcher/slaughterer. This, to my way of thinking, rules out almost all of the usual suspects!

                I don't know enough at the moment about potential suspects with this level of expertise to make a list, but I am thinking about it! There actually were a significant number of men in the East End or thereabouts with this experience, and we know only a little about very few of them.

                Sorry, but I am not helping this thread, which except for my comments, is actually very interesting.

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                • Herlock Sholmes
                  Commissioner
                  • May 2017
                  • 23247

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Doctored Whatsit View Post

                  Interesting suggestion, Lewis, especially noting that you regard your "suspects" as more like "persons of interest".

                  My problem is that I can't help seeing JtR as not just a cold blooded killer, which others do, but as one who knew exactly what he was doing, as if he had done it many times before. He was highly skilled with a very sharp knife 6-8 inches or longer - that is a fairly rare talent. That, coupled with the fact the he used the m. o. of an experienced slaughterer with the throat slitting and the clear understanding of how to do it while avoiding getting blood on his person, plus the speed at which he worked, the fact that he seemed to know where various organs were, and how to remove them, convinces me that he had a fair amount of experience as a butcher/slaughterer. This, to my way of thinking, rules out almost all of the usual suspects!

                  I don't know enough at the moment about potential suspects with this level of expertise to make a list, but I am thinking about it! There actually were a significant number of men in the East End or thereabouts with this experience, and we know only a little about very few of them.

                  Sorry, but I am not helping this thread, which except for my comments, is actually very interesting.
                  You still have plenty of time to think about it Doc.
                  Herlock Sholmes

                  ”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”

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                  • Enigma
                    Detective
                    • Aug 2019
                    • 329

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                    Sorry Enigma, I don’t know how I managed to miss your post but I did.

                    Cheers
                    That's OK Mike.

                    Regards, Gaz
                    Why a four-year-old child could understand this report! Run out and find me a four-year-old child, I can't make head or tail of it.

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                    • paul g
                      Detective
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 178

                      #40
                      Good thread and pole very interesting
                      Here are my 7 penneth worth

                      1 Bury
                      2 Chapman
                      3 kelly
                      4 Hutchinson
                      5 Cutbush
                      6 Thompson
                      7 Cohen

                      Thank you

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