Profiling Questionnaire: "Cold Blooded or Not" "Criminal or Not"

[bonestrewn]

Hi Lombro,

I'm a bit confused by this.

The "criminal classes," whether Victorian or modern, are full of violence against women. Yes, JTR would likely disturb or upset more ordinary comrades if they knew the fullest extent of his crimes, but if he passed as an ordinary woman-hater or woman-beater (which, as we know, were and are not uncommon things to be), why would this be relevant?

And, as Paddy points out above, there were and are criminals like JTR, targeting women (and in his given example, men as well) for abhorrent and disturbing crimes, fully embedded in networks of other criminals. So again, I'm just not sure how it's all relevant. I would be interested to know more about the background to your questions.

[Lombro2]

Why would he do that? Did he think killing Nordic prostitutes was the equivalent of killing a man so he chose them?

[Paddy Goose]

No problem. Joe Silver pimped Jewish prostitutes. So no, he wouldn't have known the Whitechapel murder victims. Just killed them is all.

[Lombro2]

I guess I should have mentioned I’m talking about stranger murders, not the killing of women you know or are employed by you, anymore than I would be talking about a wife or girlfriend.

[Abby Normal]

IN 1888 Joe Silver was full blown criminal class and a cadet pimp in Whitechapel at age nineteen. He went on to cold-bloodedly kill and rape both sexes and viciously exert control over his prostitutes on several continents in his career as a psychopath. He could have cared less about getting offed by his fellow miscreants for the Ripper murders as he was starting out on his life of crime and mayhem. Not scared of anyone whoever they be right from the git-go.

I don't know how you say BullShite! in Polish but he could probably say BullShite in a number of languages.

carl panzram would have kicked his arse

[Paddy Goose]

IN 1888 Joe Silver was full blown criminal class and a cadet pimp in Whitechapel at age nineteen. He went on to cold-bloodedly kill and rape both sexes and viciously exert control over his prostitutes on several continents in his career as a psychopath. He could have cared less about getting offed by his fellow miscreants for the Ripper murders as he was starting out on his life of crime and mayhem. Not scared of anyone whoever they be right from the git-go.

I don't know how you say BullShite! in Polish but he could probably say BullShite in a number of languages.

[Fiver]

1. The level of overkill makes it clear that the Ripper was not cold-blooded.

2. Since when is criminal a social class? This question is completely unrelated to the first question.

3. Your point makes no sense. Most criminals are not killers. If they knew someone was a stone-cold killer, their actions would vary. Some criminals would do nothing out of fear of the killer or fear of being labelled a snitch. Some criminals would avoid the stone-cold killer out of fear. Some criminals would try to blackmail the stone-cold killer. Some criminals would try to turn the stone-cold killer in for a reward.

But there is no reason that other criminals would try to murder someone because that other person was a stone-cold killer.

[Herlock Sholmes]

1. Yes
2. Don’t know

I know that I don’t need to answer number 3 but I sense that I know where this is heading.

if I (or anyone else) had answered, 2. Yes

then 3 would be you saying “a career criminal wouldn’t have done this because he’d have been targeted as a ‘women killer’ by his law-breaking colleagues, therefore the killer was more likely to have been a non-criminal like Maybrick.

Please tell me that you weren’t attempting to foist this tortuous offence to reason on everyone Lombro?

[Paddy Goose]

Because Jack the ripper was so cold-blooded he laughed in their faces and said BullShite! over and over As Michael Caine did in the movie Best Sellers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HXS3CjZzI8

[Lombro2]

Here is a Ripperology profiling questionnaire:


1. Do you think Jack the Ripper was cold-blooded? If Yes, go to question 2.

2. Do you think Jack the Ripper was from the criminal classes or could be? If Yes, go to question 3.

3. Why do you think someone from the criminal classes would be a cold-blooded woman killer when we all know the "general population" of criminals would automatically kill him or at least want to kill him?