Stride: Yes, No or God Knows?!

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  • Herlock Sholmes
    Commissioner
    • May 2017
    • 21794

    #1

    Stride: Yes, No or God Knows?!

    My apologies for yet another poll but I thought that I’d combine a up to date one on whether Stride was a victim of JtR or not with a setting out of the points for and against. I’ll do the second part a like my ‘rating the suspects’ thread in that I’ll update it every so often adding peoples suggestions. I’ll try and go with the consensus so that if someone suggests a point and everyone disagrees strongly it won’t be added.

    I’ll begin with some basics

    Stride was a victim

    1. Victim type (a woman of the lower classes who engaged, at some point, in prostitution.
    2. Throat cutting
    3. Area of the murder
    4. A night that we know that the ripper was active
    5. What are the chances of two women getting their throats cut by different perpetrators on the same night?


    Stride wasn’t a victim

    1. No mutilations
    2. Exposed location
    3. The killer potentially being witness by two people just before the murder






    35
    Stride was killed by the ripper
    57.14%
    20
    Stride wasn’t killed by the ripper
    22.86%
    8
    Undecided
    20.00%
    7
    Stride was a Ripper victim but not killed by the B.S. man.
    0%
    0
    Regards

    Sir Herlock Sholmes.

    “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”
  • Herlock Sholmes
    Commissioner
    • May 2017
    • 21794

    #2
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    Regards

    Sir Herlock Sholmes.

    “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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    • Herlock Sholmes
      Commissioner
      • May 2017
      • 21794

      #3
      If the votes for ‘wasn’t a victim’ stay at two then this could be the first time ever that it’s a case of me and Fishy against the rest
      Regards

      Sir Herlock Sholmes.

      “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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      • DJA
        *
        • May 2015
        • 4700

        #4
        Two 'was a victim' from the Geelong area.

        Pommy trained horse won the Geelong Cup today.

        Coincidence?

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        • John Wheat
          Assistant Commissioner
          • Jul 2008
          • 3345

          #5
          As regards Stride I think she may or may not have been a victim of Jack the Ripper.

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          • DJA
            *
            • May 2015
            • 4700

            #6
            UNDECIDED (1966) by The Masters Apprentices - incredible sixties debut single - YouTube

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            • Herlock Sholmes
              Commissioner
              • May 2017
              • 21794

              #7
              I predicted to myself that after we get a significant number of votes that we would see an approximate 70/30 split in favour of ‘was’ a victim.

              Are there any suggestions to add to my list of points for and against?
              Regards

              Sir Herlock Sholmes.

              “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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              • c.d.
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 6550

                #8
                Hi Herlock,

                I think there has to be some way to vote indicating you believe Stride was a Ripper victim but not killed by the B.S. man.

                c.d.

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                • S.Brett
                  Detective
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 411

                  #9
                  Hi Michael! I would like to suggest the "time of death":

                  Eddowes "after 1:30 AM"

                  Nichols & Kelly "after 3:30 AM"
                  Chapman "after 5:20 AM"

                  The Eddowes murder took place earlier than the other murders (Nichols, Chapman, Kelly and probably Tabram).

                  In terms of time the murders of Stride ("after 12:45 AM") & Eddowes ("after 1:30 AM") were very close to each other. But I donīt think that the Stride murder was "planned" by the Ripper.​

                  Karsten.

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                  • Kattrup
                    Sergeant
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 938

                    #10
                    I count Stride a Ripper-victim.

                    I don’t think the location was very exposed, compared to Eddowes and Nichols - in the open street!
                    I believe the killer closed at least half the gate, shielding the act.

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                    • Herlock Sholmes
                      Commissioner
                      • May 2017
                      • 21794

                      #11
                      Originally posted by c.d. View Post
                      Hi Herlock,

                      I think there has to be some way to vote indicating you believe Stride was a Ripper victim but not killed by the B.S. man.

                      c.d.
                      Hi c.d.

                      I’ll pm Jon Menges and ask if he can add ‘ripper victim but not killed by BSMan.’ Although it will be too late for those that have already voted.
                      Regards

                      Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                      “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                      • c.d.
                        Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 6550

                        #12
                        I am now giddy with the thought of how much apparent power I possess.

                        c.d.

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                        • Herlock Sholmes
                          Commissioner
                          • May 2017
                          • 21794

                          #13
                          Originally posted by S.Brett View Post
                          Hi Michael! I would like to suggest the "time of death":

                          Eddowes "after 1:30 AM"

                          Nichols & Kelly "after 3:30 AM"
                          Chapman "after 5:20 AM"

                          The Eddowes murder took place earlier than the other murders (Nichols, Chapman, Kelly and probably Tabram).

                          In terms of time the murders of Stride ("after 12:45 AM") & Eddowes ("after 1:30 AM") were very close to each other. But I donīt think that the Stride murder was "planned" by the Ripper.​

                          Karsten.
                          Hi SB,

                          I’ll add ‘earlier ToD’ to my first update. I’ll wait to see if anymore are put forward first.
                          Regards

                          Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                          “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                          • Herlock Sholmes
                            Commissioner
                            • May 2017
                            • 21794

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                            Hi c.d.

                            I’ll pm Jon Menges and ask if he can add ‘ripper victim but not killed by BSMan.’ Although it will be too late for those that have already voted.
                            Cheers Jon
                            Regards

                            Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                            “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                            • Herlock Sholmes
                              Commissioner
                              • May 2017
                              • 21794

                              #15
                              Originally posted by c.d. View Post
                              I am now giddy with the thought of how much apparent power I possess.

                              c.d.
                              I’ll give it a couple of weeks then ask if anyone wants to change their vote to the one added then I can quote the poll with an amendment.
                              Regards

                              Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                              “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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