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  • #16
    Ah, but I always refused to go down under.

    MrB

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
      Ah, but I always refused to go down under.

      MrB
      You never go a** to mouth!!!!

      Yours truly,

      Tom Wescott

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      • #18
        G'Day MrB

        I give up,

        Ah, but I always refused to go down under
        But you've missed a lot down under is good

        GUT
        G U T

        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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        • #19
          Tom,

          I am truly shocked. Just a few days ago we were having an intelligent conversation about cobblers, now we seem to have offended the cobbers.

          (By the way, I'm still convinced those cobbles were there in 1888 and were laid by the same blokes what laid the cobbles in Berners Street,)

          MrB

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          • #20
            Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
            Ah, but I always refused to go down under.

            MrB
            I think this eliminates MrBarnett as a suspect in the Whitechapel murders.

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            • #21
              G'Day MrB

              I know I'm ignorant but can you point me to the posts on the cobbles?

              GUT
              G U T

              There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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              • #22
                G'Day

                Found it thanks, just after I found the search function

                G.U.T.
                G U T

                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Errata View Post
                  It's far more likely that it was a serial with a one off or two. Stride could have been killed by someone she pissed off. Which as a prostitute was not tough to do. There's nothing at her murder scene or about her body that suggests that Jack killed her. The suggestion comes from the idea that there can't possibly be two killers, and the retrospective idea that Eddowes murder was caused by Jack not finishing Stride.
                  Hmmm, the 'suggestion' comes from a whole lot more than that, Errata, and 'there can't possibly be two killers' is nonsense, since nobody has ever had Jack down for every single case of murder that year. The suggestion that Jack may have gone on to find Eddowes because the Stride murder wasn't enough to satisfy his blood lust was there right from the start and hardly goes against common sense. It is also fully backed up by case after case of serial offenders in more recent decades producing similar double events when their first victim either survives or fails to tick all the boxes.

                  I mean, there were what, 15 throat cutting murders a year before Jack? Theres no reason for that number to slack off just because someone out there is doing it in a more spectacular fashion.
                  There were 11 knife murders of adult women recorded for the whole of England in 1887 and again in 1889, while in 1888 I think the figure was 16 or 17, so there was no sign of any slacking off, just 5 or 6 more knife murders of adult women that year, all accounted for in just one teeny-tiny part of the country's capital, all pretty spectacular, all with no apparent motive and all unsolved.

                  It's not about something in the water. It's about life going on as usual despite the presence of a serial killer.
                  Exactly. Nothing unusual that year if we can put the extra 5 or 6 knife murders of adult women down to that presence in Whitechapel.

                  Love,

                  Caz
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                  Last edited by caz; 01-10-2014, 08:29 AM.
                  "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                  • #24
                    not sitting well

                    Hello Caroline.

                    "The suggestion that Jack may have gone on to find Eddowes because the Stride murder wasn't enough to satisfy his blood lust was there right from the start and hardly goes against common sense."

                    Indeed. But it does NOT sit well with the claim that "Jack" had Mitre sq staked out and hence knew when each constable would arrive and depart.

                    Cheers.
                    LC

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                      Hello Caroline.

                      "The suggestion that Jack may have gone on to find Eddowes because the Stride murder wasn't enough to satisfy his blood lust was there right from the start and hardly goes against common sense."

                      Indeed. But it does NOT sit well with the claim that "Jack" had Mitre sq staked out and hence knew when each constable would arrive and depart.

                      Cheers.
                      LC
                      Hi Lynn,quite possible that eddowes took her killer there she might well have used mitre square before so she would know the beats of the police also would she have known if the police didn't always go through the square but popped in for a skive with the nightwatchman in the warehouse.
                      Last edited by pinkmoon; 01-10-2014, 03:37 PM.
                      Three things in life that don't stay hidden for to long ones the sun ones the moon and the other is the truth

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                      • #26
                        G'Day all

                        I keep reading about knife murders in England

                        87 - 11
                        88 - 17
                        89 - 11

                        Can anyone tell me how many of those went unsolved.

                        Thanks in advance

                        GUT
                        G U T

                        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                          Hello Caroline.

                          "The suggestion that Jack may have gone on to find Eddowes because the Stride murder wasn't enough to satisfy his blood lust was there right from the start and hardly goes against common sense."

                          Indeed. But it does NOT sit well with the claim that "Jack" had Mitre sq staked out and hence knew when each constable would arrive and depart.

                          Cheers.
                          LC
                          Hello Lynn,

                          Perhaps he relied on Eddowes for that.

                          c.d.

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                          • #28
                            Sorry PinkMoon,

                            Didn't see your post. Didn't mean to steal your thunder.

                            c.d.

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                            • #29
                              Perhaps he just took 'em where he found 'em, if he thought it was safe enough.

                              GUT
                              G U T

                              There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                              • #30
                                So there were knife murders. How many of them died from a cut to the throat and how many of those were prostitutes? How many women were murdered that had no other injuries other than the cut throat? Finally, how many women were murdered who were prostitutes and died from a cut to the throat without any other apparent injury and no apparent motive? There are knife murders and then there are knife murders.

                                c.d.

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