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  • Darryl Kenyon
    Inspector
    • Nov 2014
    • 1237

    #286
    Originally posted by PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1 View Post



    I never suggested that he was wearing it in Whitechapel in order to prevent sunburn.

    I suggested that he had been wearing it elsewhere for that purpose.
    If a sailor could have worn it elsewhere for that purpose so also could a farmer , or anyone else for that matter

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    • PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1
      Inactive
      • Sep 2022
      • 3067

      #287
      Originally posted by Darryl Kenyon View Post

      If a sailor could have worn it elsewhere for that purpose so also could a farmer , or anyone else for that matter

      Why would an English farmer have had a sunburnt face in the month of March?
      Last edited by PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1; 07-04-2023, 07:06 AM.

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      • mpriestnall
        Inspector
        • Apr 2019
        • 1190

        #288
        Originally posted by PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1 View Post


        Why would an English farmer have had a sunburnt face in the month of March?
        https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/grab-your-sunscreen-why-you-can-burn-so-easily-in-spring/349814

        HTH?
        Sapere Aude

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        • Darryl Kenyon
          Inspector
          • Nov 2014
          • 1237

          #289
          Originally posted by PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1 View Post


          Why would an English farmer have had a sunburnt face in the month of March?
          People traveled for work in 1888 it was a fact of life [ Catherine , hop picking for instance ]. How do we know that someone hadn't gone abroad, saving a few shillings for the trip seeking work in sunnier climes during the barren months of winter in their profession, farmer or otherwise , coming back in spring.

          Also sunburn on the face lasts for on average three to five days , perhaps a week , it can also make you feel ill .
          If Ada's attacker was sunburnt he must have been off the boat in the previous few days . And would a sailor get sunburnt anyway ? Perhaps, but sailors uniforms were worn to avoid the sun IE Loose fitting trousers , wide brimmed hats , neckerchief used for mopping up sweat etc Would a seasoned sailor not be used to avoiding sunburn ?

          For what it is worth I feel [ though no means positive ], that there may be a connection between Ada's attacker, Lawende's suspect and blotchy . I may be influenced by my instinct that blotchy is the ripper but I think sunburn and a red, ruddy face through drink or skin condition etc would be difficult to distinguish apart.



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          • Enigma
            Detective
            • Aug 2019
            • 309

            #290
            Given sailing times from sunny climes, would not the worst effects of sunburn have mostly healed upon arrival at port in London?
            Why a four-year-old child could understand this report! Run out and find me a four-year-old child, I can't make head or tail of it.

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            • Fiver
              Assistant Commissioner
              • Oct 2019
              • 3287

              #291
              Originally posted by Enigma View Post
              Given sailing times from sunny climes, would not the worst effects of sunburn have mostly healed upon arrival at port in London?
              Exactly. Whoever Mr Sunburn was, he probably wasn't someone who spent a lot of time in the sun -so he likely wasn't a sailor, farmer, soldier, or carman.
              "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

              "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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              • PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1
                Inactive
                • Sep 2022
                • 3067

                #292
                Originally posted by Fiver View Post

                Exactly. Whoever Mr Sunburn was, he probably wasn't someone who spent a lot of time in the sun -so he likely wasn't a sailor, farmer, soldier, or carman.

                What makes you think that a person with a sunburnt face didn't spend a lot of time in the sun?

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                • Fiver
                  Assistant Commissioner
                  • Oct 2019
                  • 3287

                  #293
                  Originally posted by PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1 View Post


                  What makes you think that a person with a sunburnt face didn't spend a lot of time in the sun?
                  Because after a few days, sunburn fades to tan. A person with sunburn is someone who usually doesn't spend much time in the sun, but had recently been exposed to large amounts of it.
                  "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

                  "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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                  • PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1
                    Inactive
                    • Sep 2022
                    • 3067

                    #294
                    Originally posted by Fiver View Post

                    Because after a few days, sunburn fades to tan. A person with sunburn is someone who usually doesn't spend much time in the sun, but had recently been exposed to large amounts of it.


                    I remember being badly sunburnt and it took a long time even for the skin to start peeling.

                    And I did not get a tan.

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                    • Marilyn
                      Cadet
                      • Sep 2022
                      • 19

                      #295
                      I don't need a favourite suspect as I know the killer/s. Only one of the group was always sunburned due to his profession. Even on the day he was murdered. Read "The Landlady" in December 2024. The casebook will close.
                      Oh, and Mr Sunburn?...Merchant Salesman. Door-to-door traveller, but not the alpha.
                      Last edited by Marilyn; 03-24-2024, 07:19 AM. Reason: Added last line for those who posted above

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                      • Wickerman
                        Commissioner
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 14864

                        #296
                        Originally posted by Darryl Kenyon View Post
                        ...

                        For what it is worth I feel [ though no means positive ], that there may be a connection between Ada's attacker, Lawende's suspect and blotchy . I may be influenced by my instinct that blotchy is the ripper but I think sunburn and a red, ruddy face through drink or skin condition etc would be difficult to distinguish apart.
                        Rosacea, can cover the face and appear like sunburn, but in some people develop a blotchy appearance. Rosacea is also most active in the colder months of the year.

                        Regards, Jon S.

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                        • Fiver
                          Assistant Commissioner
                          • Oct 2019
                          • 3287

                          #297
                          Originally posted by Marilyn View Post
                          Only one of the group was always sunburned due to his profession.
                          A farmer? A sailor? A police constable? A carman? A coachman? A gardener? A groundskeeper? A soldier? A mudlark? A costermonger? A cats meat man? A shepherd? A beggar? A postman? A rag and bone man? A fisherman?

                          "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

                          "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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                          • Abby Normal
                            Commissioner
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 11900

                            #298
                            Originally posted by Marilyn View Post
                            I don't need a favourite suspect as I know the killer/s. Only one of the group was always sunburned due to his profession. Even on the day he was murdered. Read "The Landlady" in December 2024. The casebook will close.
                            Oh, and Mr Sunburn?...Merchant Salesman. Door-to-door traveller, but not the alpha.
                            a group of murdering door to door salesmen led by Ma Landlady was jack the ripper? im not sure I can wait till December the anticipation is too much lol.
                            "Is all that we see or seem
                            but a dream within a dream?"

                            -Edgar Allan Poe


                            "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                            quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                            -Frederick G. Abberline

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                            • Mark J D
                              Sergeant
                              • Jul 2021
                              • 726

                              #299
                              Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                              a group of murdering door to door salesmen
                              "That joke about the Encyclopaedia Britannica​ gave me real fits​.
                              Yours truly​,
                              Jack the Retailer."
                              (Image of Charles Allen Lechmere is by artist Ashton Guilbeaux. Used by permission. Original art-work for sale.)

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                              • Abby Normal
                                Commissioner
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 11900

                                #300
                                Originally posted by Mark J D View Post

                                "That joke about the Encyclopaedia Britannica​ gave me real fits​.
                                Yours truly​,
                                Jack the Retailer."
                                lol good one!
                                "Is all that we see or seem
                                but a dream within a dream?"

                                -Edgar Allan Poe


                                "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                                quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                                -Frederick G. Abberline

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