VERY general question

[DJA]

Robert Stephenson (Roslyn D'Onston) was in Whitechapel the entire time.

So was his medical officer,Henry Gawen Sutton,except when home at Sevenoaks.

[Wickerman]

Robert Stephenson (Roslyn D'Onston) was in Whitechapel the entire time.

Being in London is a requirement, that just makes him eligible to be a suspect.

[Camus]

Robert Stephenson (Roslyn D'Onston) was in Whitechapel the entire time.

[DJA]

And in Davies case, he and one of the victims appears in the Census together at the same hospital.

Yep.Nichols.

Davies tells us that Jack the Ripper was into anal intercourse.

Colleague of HG Sutton.

[SuspectZero]

And in Davies case, he and one of the victims appears in the Census together at the same hospital.

[GBinOz]

Add to the list Morgan Davies and G. W. Bellsmith

I haven't heard of them before. Thanks. Off to the books.

Cheers, George

[SuspectZero]

Add to the list Morgan Davies and G. W. Bellsmith

[DJA]

Out of all the suspects. Were they all there? Were they actually confirmed to be IN THE AREA during the murders or at the very least can be placed close by at the time? For instance, we know George Chapman was somewhat nearby so to speak. What about the others? Prince Albert Victor was out of the country at the time of some of the killings wasn't he? i could be wrong. I'm trying to figure out which we can eliminate by sheer common sense.

We can include Henry Gawen Sutton who was known to work late at The London Hospital.
If he missed the last train to Sevenoaks,a residence and or hotel would be required.
After Nichols' murder near the Hospital,the other four murders sites fan out from there.

[GBinOz]

The head in the JtR museum is the death mask of Frederick Deeming. There was a report from a woman who said she saw him in whitechapel around the time of Eddows murder and he actually confessed to murdering Eddows and Kelly. There is a photo of him dressed like the Kelly suspect. One of his weapons of choice was a small axe and it is thought that an axe was used on Kelly. He brought his 2nd wife out here to Australia and killed her. He was hung in Australia in 1892. Interesting suspect but really need another earlier ripper for him to be viable.

Cheers, George

[Abby Normal]

Ultimately, that is a minor point. He was proven to be lurking outside MJK's residence in the early hours of the morning of her murder, definitely lived locally and more importantly, was most likely the last person to have seen her alive. By modern standards, I'm certain he would have been treated as a person of interest by the police.

However, his coming forward (albeit delayed) to give his statement does somewhat suggest his innocence. The likelihood of the police tracking him down as a witness would have been slim one would imagine. So what benefit to him does giving his account provide? He most likely wanted to give the police the information he claimed was true to assist in the investigation. These type of behaviours have been seen before by killers who inject themselves into investigations. Ian Huntly springs to mind. His overly detailed description seems as if he is really trying too hard to promote the idea of a slightly flamboyant Jewish man as being the killer. This is what makes him suspicious to many.

I have a different theory which will be in my fictional book

hi ero
good luck with your book! abberlines use of the word interogated seems to suggest there was some initial suspician, but that during the course of the conversation he came to beleive him. I think that having just heard at the inquest lewis account of hutch waiting there was probably the cause. although a few days later it seems hutch lost favor as a witness. IMHO it seems like abberline may have just come toview him as another time wasting attention seeker like packer and violenia.

however, could it simply be the case of a very astute detective just being fooled by one of histories craftiest serial killers? One could forgive the detective as it was so early in the history of serial killer cases, and folks just didnt have the experience in dealing with these type of the most elusive of killers.

[erobitha]

Hi Abby.
If you recall, Hutchinson seemed to be in the Victoria Home when he gave his interview to the Central News journalist. He did give the Victoria Home as his residence to the police on the 12th, so on the 13th when he was interviewed he happened to say:
"I told one of the lodgers here about it yesterday,...."

So presumably he was in the Home, so then when he says:
"I walked about all night, as the place where I usually sleep was closed."
Where is his 'usual place'?

He doesn't say 'this place was closed', so it looks like he only began staying at the Victoria Home from Friday morning when the lodgings opened up.
Which means we don't know where he usually stayed.

Ultimately, that is a minor point. He was proven to be lurking outside MJK's residence in the early hours of the morning of her murder, definitely lived locally and more importantly, was most likely the last person to have seen her alive. By modern standards, I'm certain he would have been treated as a person of interest by the police.

However, his coming forward (albeit delayed) to give his statement does somewhat suggest his innocence. The likelihood of the police tracking him down as a witness would have been slim one would imagine. So what benefit to him does giving his account provide? He most likely wanted to give the police the information he claimed was true to assist in the investigation. These type of behaviours have been seen before by killers who inject themselves into investigations. Ian Huntly springs to mind. His overly detailed description seems as if he is really trying too hard to promote the idea of a slightly flamboyant Jewish man as being the killer. This is what makes him suspicious to many.

I have a different theory which will be in my fictional book

[Wickerman]

not only was hutchinson known to be in the area, he lived around the corner from mary kelly in the victoria home and was following her around and lurking out side her house,.....

Hi Abby.
If you recall, Hutchinson seemed to be in the Victoria Home when he gave his interview to the Central News journalist. He did give the Victoria Home as his residence to the police on the 12th, so on the 13th when he was interviewed he happened to say:
"I told one of the lodgers here about it yesterday,...."

So presumably he was in the Home, so then when he says:
"I walked about all night, as the place where I usually sleep was closed."
Where is his 'usual place'?

He doesn't say 'this place was closed', so it looks like he only began staying at the Victoria Home from Friday morning when the lodgings opened up.
Which means we don't know where he usually stayed.

[Abby Normal]

Out of all the suspects. Were they all there? Were they actually confirmed to be IN THE AREA during the murders or at the very least can be placed close by at the time? For instance, we know George Chapman was somewhat nearby so to speak. What about the others? Prince Albert Victor was out of the country at the time of some of the killings wasn't he? i could be wrong. I'm trying to figure out which we can eliminate by sheer common sense.

not only was hutchinson known to be in the area, he lived around the corner from mary kelly in the victoria home and was following her around and lurking out side her house, confirmed by sarah lewis, on the night she was murdered.

[c.d.]

And apparently Druitt came and went.

c.d.

[c.d.]

Apparently Kosminski wasn't all there.

Good one.

c.d.