A New Suspect - John Pavitt Sawyer

[Chris Scott]

This book was the subject of a thread back in April. http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=6409

I bought the Kindle version and read it. I found it quite interesting, but having only the most superficial knowledge about Freemasonry I felt unqualified as to render an opinion. I was rather hoping that somebody would take the author up on doing some research.

Many thanks for the link to that thread - I will have a read

[HelenaWojtczak]

My first idea was to reply "Oh dear, will Casebook be closed down now we have found JtR" but I decided to eschew humour in favour of the observation that George Chapman had a rival hairdresser at number 97.

In 1891 Chapman lived at Tewkesbury Buildings, 100 Whitechapel High Street, and was a hairdresser at number 89. So Mr Sawyer's place was in between.

Helena

[Steven Russell]

Another hairdresser! They're all over this case!

[GregBaron]

Crazy Masons again....

Another hairdresser! They're all over this case!

Yes Steven, perhaps the women were murdered because he didn't approve of their hairstyles........? Ha


I also read this bargain-basement tome.......it's interesting but apparently I forgot about it rather quickly....

I think I have a natural aversion to anything conspiratorial or Masonic related........I admit this is a weakness of my constitution....

As always, additional research is welcome.......



Greg

[HelenaWojtczak]

Wasn't Kosminski a hairdresser?

[Steven Russell]

He sure was, Helena. Hence my oft repeated but unpopular theory about Abberline, Kosminski, and Chapman.

Best wishes,
Steve.

[HelenaWojtczak]

He sure was, Helena. Hence my oft repeated but unpopular theory about Abberline, Kosminski, and Chapman.

Best wishes,
Steve.

Apologies for my ignorance, I don't know your theory, despite your repeating it!

[Steven Russell]

Need to get ready to go out but will post it tomorrow if you like, although I may have mentioned it in a PM to you a while back.

Best wishes,
Steve.

[HelenaWojtczak]

Need to get ready to go out but will post it tomorrow if you like, although I may have mentioned it in a PM to you a while back.

Best wishes,
Steve.

Sorry, mate, I will check back thru my PMs.

Helena

[lynn cates]

research

Hello Chris. I just finished reading this.

I wonder if you or anyone have researched Lister, Hotham or Duberly?

Cheers.
LC

[Chris Scott]

Hello Chris. I just finished reading this.

I wonder if you or anyone have researched Lister, Hotham or Duberly?

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn
Apart from what is in the book - well I looked in the Army list for 1893 and certainly officers of the two more unusual names (Hotham and Duberly) exist
I will see tomorrow what if anything I can find
Chris

[lynn cates]

research

Hello Chris. Thanks.

One gets the feeling that one could do a bit of research, find a chap from the area (Sawyer)--one who had masonic antecedents, and then write the book.

Did you personally find any evidence that the whole thing could not have been written after researching a bit?

Cheers.
LC

[moonbegger]

Hi Chris ,

Thanks for the info , will have to check it out , Now wouldn't that throw the cat amongst the pigeons ..

[The Demon Barber of Whitechapel ]

moonbegger

[Chris Scott]

Hello Chris. Thanks.

One gets the feeling that one could do a bit of research, find a chap from the area (Sawyer)--one who had masonic antecedents, and then write the book.

Did you personally find any evidence that the whole thing could not have been written after researching a bit?

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn
Of course from just reading the book one cannot say whether or not the tale will stand scrutiny.
The implication from the book as I understood it is that the contents of the attache case - including the handwritten confession - had been handed down through three generations of the family and still exist.
So the crucial question is can the "confession" be produced and examined and will it withstand scrutiny?

[lynn cates]

practise makes perfect

Hello Chris. Thanks. I was wondering the same thing.

One "feels" elements of the Masonic conspiracy theories and the Maybrick Diary here.

At least the solution for Polly was original--a practise run.

Cheers.
LC