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On the contrary, Lechmere, there are large pointers to Hutch's personality -whether he was the Ripper, Toppy, genuine, or a fantasist.
He certainly seems rather attention seeking and imaginative in his press interviews for one thing. Even if you take the view that A Man existed, then he just had to have embroidered wholesale -that description is laughable.
I find Hutch 'mysterious', but interestingly so. Was he Toppy ? -You didn't prove it but he may have been. If he wasn't then who was he ? Did he really know Kelly ? In what circumstances was he a groom ? Why couldn’t he find another job as a groom ? If he lied to the police, then why ? If he really did wait for ¾ of an hour opposite the Court, but didn’t kill Kelly, then why ? Why didn’t he come forward straight away ?
I am interested in him because he throws up endless questions for me.
One part of me has. The other part is down to earth and can regard the imaginative part (and enjoy it with pleasure) from the exterior, and know the difference.
That is your imagination working, I’m afraid (as to infatuation). However , I can explain exactly why I’m curious about how Hutch interacted with women : Actually , I’m just as curious about how any of the men in the Victoria Home interacted with women, simply I don’t know their names and I’ve been briefly introduced to Hutch, and so I know his.
I will be blunt..I think that all those single men living insecure and institutionalised lives were lacking some basic human needs as to things like tenderness, complicity, sex, looking after/being looked after, firtation -maybe just the simple visual presence of women. I think that they would deal with it in different ways according to their personalities –either suppressing their needs and becoming emasculated (like the tramps in Orwells ‘Down and Out in Paris and London’), or they would fight against it and use the local prostitutes, or they would try chatting up decent women but be rejected most times because they had nothing material to offer.
Is it my « overactive imagination » or is it my down to earth side that sees male lodging houses as potential powder kegs with plenty of pent up frustrated and angry men -their focus being women ?
So, yes I’d like to know which camp Hutch fell into -on one hand if he were the Ripper, and on the other by simple curiosity to see how he (and through him, other men in his station in life) dealt with their lot.
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He certainly seems rather attention seeking and imaginative in his press interviews for one thing. Even if you take the view that A Man existed, then he just had to have embroidered wholesale -that description is laughable.
I find Hutch 'mysterious', but interestingly so. Was he Toppy ? -You didn't prove it but he may have been. If he wasn't then who was he ? Did he really know Kelly ? In what circumstances was he a groom ? Why couldn’t he find another job as a groom ? If he lied to the police, then why ? If he really did wait for ¾ of an hour opposite the Court, but didn’t kill Kelly, then why ? Why didn’t he come forward straight away ?
I am interested in him because he throws up endless questions for me.
Madam Retro - I suspect you have just got an over active imagination.
Is this a female version of those fellows who develope a worrying over infatuation with Mary Kelly?
..."how he interacted with other people -particuarly women." - hmmmm.
..."how he interacted with other people -particuarly women." - hmmmm.
I will be blunt..I think that all those single men living insecure and institutionalised lives were lacking some basic human needs as to things like tenderness, complicity, sex, looking after/being looked after, firtation -maybe just the simple visual presence of women. I think that they would deal with it in different ways according to their personalities –either suppressing their needs and becoming emasculated (like the tramps in Orwells ‘Down and Out in Paris and London’), or they would fight against it and use the local prostitutes, or they would try chatting up decent women but be rejected most times because they had nothing material to offer.
Is it my « overactive imagination » or is it my down to earth side that sees male lodging houses as potential powder kegs with plenty of pent up frustrated and angry men -their focus being women ?
So, yes I’d like to know which camp Hutch fell into -on one hand if he were the Ripper, and on the other by simple curiosity to see how he (and through him, other men in his station in life) dealt with their lot.
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