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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by jerryd View Post

    Yes, my mistake, Gary. It does look like age 24 now that I zoom in.
    so 31 in 88? and this is henry buckley correct?
    Last edited by Abby Normal; 05-14-2019, 07:56 PM.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

    Hi Abby,

    Do you mean Kitty Roman? She was murdered in Millers Court in 1909, by which time Buckley was long dead, but Billy Maher was still going strong.

    Or are you thinking of Mary Ann Austin (1901)?

    Gary


    thanks Gary!
    either one but it dosnt matter to my query now as buckley was long gone before either was killed.

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  • seanr
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    Another curious detail I've just noticed. In the newspaper clipping from Dec 1888, Henry Buckley's address is given as 26 Dorset Street.

    Some people have speculated that there was a door at the back of 13 Miller's Court which can be seen in MJK1 in the top right corner. I'm not 100% sure there was a door there, but it does look a little bit like a door.

    If that door did exist, where would it have led? - well, it would be door into 26 Dorset Street, wouldn't it?

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  • Harry D
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

    thanks Harry (or is that henry? ; )
    I'm often called Harold sarcastically, never Henry.

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  • jerryd
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    Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

    Hi Jerry,

    The age looks like 24 to me. As I say above, his occupation was recorded as ‘shopman’ - as was that of Daniel McCarthy, Jack’’’s younger brother.

    I can’t see either of them weighing out screws of tea or bags of mint humbugs somehow.

    Gary
    Yes, my mistake, Gary. It does look like age 24 now that I zoom in.

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  • MrBarnett
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    Yes, that’s it, Jerry. His occupation was again recorded as ‘shopman’.

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  • MrBarnett
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    Originally posted by jerryd View Post
    In the 1881 Census he is listed at 27, Dorset Street as a boarder with John McCarthy and family. His age is listed as 26 (1855), so 33 in 1888, b. Mile End. The name on the census is Henry Buckley.
    Hi Jerry,

    The age looks like 24 to me. As I say above, his occupation was recorded as ‘shopman’ - as was that of Daniel McCarthy, Jack’’’s younger brother.

    I can’t see either of them weighing out screws of tea or bags of mint humbugs somehow.

    Gary
    Last edited by MrBarnett; 05-14-2019, 04:58 PM.

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  • jerryd
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    This might be his court appearance? He was acquitted of wounding.


    January 1889 at Clerkenwell, Middlesex


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  • jerryd
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    In the 1881 Census he is listed at 27, Dorset Street as a boarder with John McCarthy and family. His age is listed as 26 (1855), so 33 in 1888, b. Mile End. The name on the census is Henry Buckley.

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  • MrBarnett
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

    what year was the other woman murdered in dorset st/millers court?
    Hi Abby,

    Do you mean Kitty Roman? She was murdered in Millers Court in 1909, by which time Buckley was long dead, but Billy Maher was still going strong.

    Or are you thinking of Mary Ann Austin (1901)?

    Gary



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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
    However if he was known around Miller's Court, I would have expected Mrs Cox to have recognised him.
    Precisely what I was going to say, Joshua. I see that Trevor agrees as well.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

    and cox said blotchy was 36... interesting
    what year was the other woman murdered in dorset st/millers court?

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

    His address on his death cert was 27, Dorset Street.
    and cox said blotchy was 36... interesting

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
    I too am pretty sure that Harry is a common nickname for Henry. Just ask Henry D.

    He does seem an intriguing fellow. However if he was known around Miller's Court, I would have expected Mrs Cox to have recognised him.
    you would think. plus the police looked for blotchy and inquired at the local pubs youd think they would have asked around the court about blotchy. but still a VERY intriguing character.

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  • MrBarnett
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    Originally posted by Harry D View Post

    There was a Henry Buckley who died in the Baker's Row Infirmary in 1892.

    If it's the same guy, he was 37 during the killings.
    His address on his death cert was 27, Dorset Street. On the 1881 census there was a Henry Buckley living at that address who was described as a ‘shopman (general shop)’.

    In 1901, Billy Maher, who seems to have been Ann McCarthy’s minder, was also described as a shop assistant.

    Last edited by MrBarnett; 05-14-2019, 04:23 PM.

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