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  • Astrakhan Man Collared and Cuffed?

    Hi All,

    From whom might the press have got this story?

    Auckland Star, 15th November 1888—

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    Regards,

    Simon
    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

  • #2
    Hi simon,
    Having only just finished reading the Van Gogh threads, do we know if this person had two ears?

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    • #3
      spat

      Hello Simon. Lovely find. Did they find him because he'd had a SPAT with someone? (sorry)

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • #4
        Hi Lynn,

        Sorry? I should jolly well think so.

        You should be sentenced to a lifetime of believing in Macnaghten or Anderson.

        Pretty funny, though.

        The Times, Wednesday 14th November 1888—

        ". . . The description of the murderer given by Hutchinson agrees in every particular with that already furnished by the police and published yesterday morning."

        Which witness description might that have been?

        Three guesses.

        Regards,

        Simon
        Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post


          The Times, Wednesday 14th November 1888—

          ". . . The description of the murderer given by Hutchinson agrees in every particular with that already furnished by the police and published yesterday morning."

          Which witness description might that have been?

          Three guesses.

          Regards,

          Simon
          Simon, Hutchinson gave the first description to police, which they published on the 13th.
          Then, Hutchinson gave a second version directly to the press, which was published on the 14th.

          Regards, Jon S.
          Regards, Jon S.

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          • #6
            Millen to one

            Hello Simon. Are you suggesting that Millen had been pinched?

            Cheers.
            LC

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            • #7
              Hi Jon,

              We know that, but the LVP newspaper-reading public did not.

              In 1888 a reader of The Times might have reasonably concluded that Hutchinson was confirming an earlier and quite independent story.

              However . . .

              Regards,

              Simon
              Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by spyglass View Post
                Hi simon,
                Having only just finished reading the Van Gogh threads, do we know if this person had two ears?
                Hmm, most suspect descriptions have JtR wearing a hat, something must have stopped it falling down over his eyes...
                Regards, Jon S.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by spyglass
                  Hi simon,
                  Having only just finished reading the Van Gogh threads, do we know if this person had two ears?
                  Hi Simon. I'm reading the James Carnac book. Do you happen to have a leg count for this fellow?

                  Yours truly,

                  Tom Wescott

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                  • #10
                    Hi Lynn,

                    "Age 50 to 55, 5' 8", red face, blotchy as from excessive drinking—large nose—hair (wavy) brown, turning grey, moustache white, no whiskers. Very slight build, dressed—dark clothes, dark overcoat with astrakhan collar and cuffs—hard felt hat. Wears sword scarf pin—has Irish harp and shamrock on locket and watch chain."

                    I guess General Millen could have been Mr Blotchy and Mr Astrakhan rolled up into one.

                    Nothing would surprise me.

                    Regards,

                    Simon
                    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                    • #11
                      Hi Tom,

                      Two, as far as I know.

                      Three, if it was this guy.

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                      Regards,

                      Simon
                      Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                      • #12
                        blotchy

                        Hello Simon. Well, I'd better keep Blotchy reserved for "Red" Jim McDermott.

                        At any rate, one usually becomes blotchy from excessive and rich food/drink. And spying paid very well.

                        Cheers.
                        LC

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                          Hello Simon. Well, I'd better keep Blotchy reserved for "Red" Jim McDermott.

                          At any rate, one usually becomes blotchy from excessive and rich food/drink. And spying paid very well.

                          Cheers.
                          LC
                          You know I always thought of blotchy as a bad case of rosacea.

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                          • #14
                            blotchiness

                            Hello Barbara. Well, they can be. But sometimes plump individuals have such a blotchy appearance, due to over consumption.

                            Cheers.
                            LC

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                            • #15
                              Why, it's Tumblety, of course.

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