Blotchy

[lynn cates]

right

Hello Mac.

"I find it hard to envisage a scenario where they agree that he pays for an hour and a half of singing followed by 10 minutes punter/prostitute."

That makes two of us.

Cheers.
LC

[Bridewell]

Why he does not get more consideration among Ripperologists is mind boggling frankly.

"Blotchy Face" is only a description though, not the name of a person, so I'm not sure how much consideration 'he' can get, other than to acknowledge the possibility that whoever killed MJK may have had a blotchy face and a thick carroty moustache.

Regards, Bridewell.

[Fleetwood Mac]

Many a serial killer was under the influence when they committed there murders such as Dahmer and bundy.

As soon as one realizes that hutch was fabricating his A man story then the next viable suspect is Blotchy as he was the last man seen with Mary Kelly when she was alive.

Why he does not get more consideration among Ripperologists is mind boggling frankly.

I may be mistaken, Abby, but Cox didn't say Blotchy was drunk.

Regardless, we all know inhibitions are relaxed when under the influence.

[Fleetwood Mac]

Hi FM
Absolutely. Unlike the other murders he was in a private room with her so his primary fear of being caught by a PC was not there. Being caught by someone else was also greatly alleviated and considering how friendly They were probably knew about her private/romantic life and knew she was single.

And the chances of being interrupted become less likely the longer he waits and the later it gets. He obviously ended up having all the time he wanted to indulge his sick fantasy.

Hi Abby,

I find it hard to envisage a scenario where they agree that he pays for an hour and a half of singing followed by 10 minutes punter/prostitute. Seems unlikely, and as we can be reasonably certain he didn't pay for a quick 10 minutes then the best option is that he paid for the night.

Clearly, the invitation was not one of 10 minutes before Mary moved onto the next punter.

The evidence points to her settling down for the night - the singing, the folding of the clothes, the beer pot, her being intoxicated.

[Wickerman]

As soon as one realizes that hutch was fabricating his A man story

The offer will always stay open Abby, as soon as someone figures out how "they" realized he was fabricating, and by what documented evidence, then the offer is still open to put an end to this conjecture.

But not to divert the thread...

...then the next viable suspect is Blotchy as he was the last man seen with Mary Kelly when she was alive.

Though not if the police believed MJK died "after 4:00 am", right?
They would have to believe in a "Time of Death" of around 1:00-2:00 am. for them to pursue Blotchy, it was afterall 11:45 pm when Cox saw him enter Kelly's room.
No-one else saw Blotchy, not in the street, not in a pub, or beershop. The police did look for this guy.

Why he does not get more consideration among Ripperologists is mind boggling frankly.

What do we do with a man who only appeared for one brief shining moment?
He's no more traceable than the Bethnal Green botherer, right?, and how much attention does he get?, just the same.

Hi FM
Absolutely. Unlike the other murders he was in a private room with her so his primary fear of being caught by a PC was not there. Being caught by someone else was also greatly alleviated and considering how friendly They were probably knew about her private/romantic life and knew she was single.

And the chances of being interrupted become less likely the longer he waits and the later it gets. He obviously ended up having all the time he wanted to indulge his sick fantasy.

When someone is up to no good, complacency is not foremost on there mind.
They will be anxious, and will feel vulnerable, and the mutilations to Kelly could have been completed within the hour.

Do you think Blotchy was done & gone by the time Hutchinson walked up to Kelly's door at, what shall we say, maybe 2:20 am?

Regards, Jon S.

[Abby Normal]

I think so.

I don't go with the idea that he wouldn't have been able to control himself as soon as in the room.

Quite clearly, he was able to control himself to an extent, which is why he probably wasn't caught.

If blotchy were JTR then he was aware of people coming and going at that time, just as Cox was aware of him. Would make sense to wait until around half one/twoish - as he usually did.

Hi FM
Absolutely. Unlike the other murders he was in a private room with her so his primary fear of being caught by a PC was not there. Being caught by someone else was also greatly alleviated and considering how friendly They were probably knew about her private/romantic life and knew she was single.

And the chances of being interrupted become less likely the longer he waits and the later it gets. He obviously ended up having all the time he wanted to indulge his sick fantasy.

[Abby Normal]

Me neither Jon

All the best

Dave

Many a serial killer was under the influence when they committed there murders such as Dahmer and bundy.

As soon as one realizes that hutch was fabricating his A man story then the next viable suspect is Blotchy as he was the last man seen with Mary Kelly when she was alive.

Why he does not get more consideration among Ripperologists is mind boggling frankly.

[Cogidubnus]

Me neither Jon

All the best

Dave

[Wickerman]

Suitable receptacle to carry away a heart though, doncha think?

I just don't see a drunk committing this crime...

Jon S.

[Cogidubnus]

Clearly Blotchy took the pot back (per the Druid's example I gave of Brighton) or at least away else it would've been found at the scene (where does this roaming potboy thing come from?) ... this to me militates against his being the murderer...I think he was long gone ere killing time...

All the best

Dave

[Fleetwood Mac]

Ironically he was most likely than all to be Jtr. LOL

I think so.

I don't go with the idea that he wouldn't have been able to control himself as soon as in the room.

Quite clearly, he was able to control himself to an extent, which is why he probably wasn't caught.

If blotchy were JTR then he was aware of people coming and going at that time, just as Cox was aware of him. Would make sense to wait until around half one/twoish - as he usually did.

[Abby Normal]

Any more pot and the drug squad'll be on to us!

Dave

Ironically he was most likely than all to be Jtr. LOL

[Cogidubnus]

Careful

Any more pot and the drug squad'll be on to us!

Dave

[Wickerman]

Hardly Robert.
If the pot was in the room, it would have used more tact. The kettle would have been coloured, not black.

[Robert]

I'm wondering if the pot was in the room when the kettle spout melted - if so, the pot might have called the kettle black.