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  • Hunter
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    And none of the aforementioned SKs took the extremely high risks entailed in this series of murders. The Whitechapel Murders almost stand alone in this regard given the fact that a perpetrator was never apprehended and convicted for any of them; despite what had to be a narrow escape in several of them.

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  • The Good Michael
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    Originally posted by GregBaron View Post
    Now I know we have examples of good family men who were atrocious serial killers (BTK) but I consider this the exception rather than a likelihood here.
    You know, I've thought about this kind of thing. JTR was completely different in any of the modern killers because we can't see any kind of detailed planning in what he did. I'm sure there was some kind of notion, but opportunity seems to be the key, and the opportunity required only a minimum of time and effort. What Bundy and Gacey, and BTK, and Dahmer did required a lot of time as well as opportunity.

    Mike

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  • GregBaron
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    Solid citizen?

    Originally posted by The Good Michael View Post
    Even the GH looking guiltier would seem accurate had he not been an upstanding family man later in life.

    Mike
    I agree with this Mike. If the mysterious radio program is discovered (latest report Lynn?) and our illustrious Mr. Fairclough reveals information that supports Toppy as Hutch, I believe the case for the Hutchinsonians will be severely diminished.

    Now I know we have examples of good family men who were atrocious serial killers (BTK) but I consider this the exception rather than a likelihood here.

    That someone could murder and mutilate to the extent that went on in Miller's Court and then wake up the next day, have some coffee and say "Well, it's time to turn over a new leaf" and then to actually do it, well...

    It wouldn't close the door but would move it closer to the latch methinks...


    Greg

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  • The Good Michael
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Michael. He was a British spy. He had worked for Sir Edward Jenkinson.
    I see...so no connection with the Court unless i use my imagination in an uncomfortable direction?

    Mike

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  • DVV
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    Indeed, it's not for nothing that they call him Toppy-Upright.

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  • The Good Michael
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    Originally posted by Malcolm X View Post
    just googled it, it would hold loads of beer, it looks just like an ice bucket!

    we've no idea how full it was, the only things we know is that she was already drunk before entering no 13 and singing on till 1am.

    Blotchy looks like a drinking companion from the pub, this would also be the perfect way to gain access to her room as JTR, (considering that MJK is a boozer), this is far safer than to attempt this mutilation out on the street, to someone else.

    but for this to work, i think Blotchy needs to leave and to return again later on at 4am, but in a scenario like this GH looks way more guilty.

    I agree with all this. Even the GH looking guiltier would seem accurate had he not been an upstanding family man later in life.

    Mike

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  • Malcolm X
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    just googled it, it would hold loads of beer, it looks just like an ice bucket!

    we've no idea how full it was, the only things we know is that she was already drunk before entering no 13 and singing on till 1am.

    Blotchy looks like a drinking companion from the pub, this would also be the perfect way to gain access to her room as JTR, (considering that MJK is a boozer), this is far safer than to attempt this mutilation out on the street, to someone else.

    but for this to work, i think Blotchy needs to leave and to return again later on at 4am, but in a scenario like this GH looks way more guilty.
    Last edited by Malcolm X; 01-27-2012, 06:52 PM.

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  • lynn cates
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    spy

    Hello Michael. He was a British spy. He had worked for Sir Edward Jenkinson.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • The Good Michael
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    Yes Lynn. You mentioned that before and posted a drawing of him. I think you meant to post a photo.

    What was his connection to the Court? An Irish last name, sure. Maybe a McCarthy crony?

    Mike

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  • lynn cates
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    match

    Hello Michael. Well, if so, he drank up all the profits.

    I am sure you are aware that Blotchy's description matches that of Red Jim McDermott?

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • The Good Michael
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Michael. I am sure Blotchy wished to remain anonymous. Of course, we cannot be sure of the nature of his business with MJK. All we have is speculation.
    Right. He may have been a beer salesman.


    Mike

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  • lynn cates
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    anonymity

    Hello Michael. I am sure Blotchy wished to remain anonymous. Of course, we cannot be sure of the nature of his business with MJK. All we have is speculation.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • The Good Michael
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    Originally posted by harry View Post
    Whether the pot was empty or contained beer is not known.Either way it would make little difference.It is not knpwn how or where Kelly and Blotchy met,what is of importance is the fact that both entered Millers Court at about midnight.It is possible that,being alone on leaving premises,she asked to be accompanied home by someone she was aquainted with.Someone inside or outside such premises.Lots of possibilities.
    Harry,

    I agree. It makes no difference to me either. It's quite possible that Blotchy escorted Kelly or that Kelly tossed him out, freshened up a bit and went on her way. What matters is that Blotchy left... or so accounts of further activity lead us/me to believe. Nice to see back here, Harry. hope all is well.

    Mike

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  • harry
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    Whether the pot was empty or contained beer is not known.Either way it would make little difference.It is not knpwn how or where Kelly and Blotchy met,what is of importance is the fact that both entered Millers Court at about midnight.It is possible that,being alone on leaving premises,she asked to be accompanied home by someone she was aquainted with.Someone inside or outside such premises.Lots of possibilities.

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  • The Good Michael
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Michael.

    "He had nothing to hide and was probably a familiar blotchy face to the denizens of the Court whether they could out a name to him or not."

    But should not that fact have been alluded to when his description was given?
    It may have been, but wasn't in the papers. If Blotchy wanted to be covert, I don't think walking with a drunken, loud Kelly, carrying a pot of beer, and letting anyone who might want to get a good look at him, was the way to do it.
    Regardless, he left and Kelly either went out and got at least one more, or one more came to her. Blotchy must have been scared sh$tless when he read the papers.

    Mike

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