Who are the mostly likely suspects?

[lynn cates]

to go

Hello Greg. Yes--at least he likely took it with him.

Yes, the knife (cute).

I wonder whether Blotchy did not provide beer for 2? Perhaps he and MJK had much to discuss?

Cheers.
LC

[GregBaron]

Get a faceful...

Hello Greg. In "The Echo" story, such containers were said to be placed next the door when emptied (remember the milk man of olden days and their glass containers?). Then "pot boys" would collect and return them.

But none to report at Millers Court.

Cheers.
LC

I see Lynn, so you are referring to whether Blotchy's beer bucket was ever retrieved? Hmmm, he was pretty careful for a sloppy punter.......!

Then care was indicated--one slip and out she comes.

You are here referring to the knife, right Lynn?

Here's another from capitaltaps Blogspot. Looks like a thriving business for lunch! Can't do that in America these days.

Thanks Mike, also good stuff. I guess the idea was that you could transport and slosh it about without spilling any of the precious nectar. Actually drinking from it seems rather crude but I doubt Blotchy was a proponent of Aristocratic etiquette...


Greg

[lynn cates]

pot boys

Hello Greg. In "The Echo" story, such containers were said to be placed next the door when emptied (remember the milk man of olden days and their glass containers?). Then "pot boys" would collect and return them.

But none to report at Millers Court.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

careful

Hello Abby. Then care was indicated--one slip and out she comes.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

spout

Hello Chris. Thanks for that.

Was there a spout or such on smaller containers?

Cheers.
LC

[GregBaron]

Fill it to the rim sir...

This is very much how I think the beer container would have been
have a look at

http://www.bottless.net/The_History_of_The_Beer_Growler_s/605.htm?searching=Y

for more info
Chris

Thanks Chris. That's good stuff, exactly what I was looking for...

In the U.S. today, one often sees youngsters ordering a bucket of beer which looks like the growlers shown except it's filled with about a half dozen bottles.

If one attempts to abscond outdoors with said bucket however, retribution is swift...

Greg

[The Good Michael]

This is very much how I think the beer container would have been
have a look at

http://www.bottless.net/The_History_of_The_Beer_Growler_s/605.htm?searching=Y

for more info

Here's another from capitaltaps Blogspot. Looks like a thriving business for lunch! Can't do that in America these days.

Mike

[Abby Normal]

Hello Abby. Thanks. Two quick points.

1. If they drank together, got comfortable together, perhaps even passed out together, where was the knife at this time? If it were concealed in his coat, would not that have been off whilst he were "relaxing"?

2. What was GH's motive for making up the A-man story? To be important?

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn
The knife was probably in his coat, on or off. If off he could have retreived it at any time. GH-yes and perhaps for cash.

[Chris Scott]

This is very much how I think the beer container would have been
have a look at

http://www.bottless.net/The_History_of_The_Beer_Growler_s/605.htm?searching=Y

for more info
Chris

[lynn cates]

cover

Hello Greg, Michael. Might add a lid or cover.

cheers.
LC

[The Good Michael]

Thanks Mike. I suppose this means you could buy it and carry it to the streets. I'm not sure why I find this amusing but I do. Which one of these was it?

Maybe he carried the heart away in said pail..?

It could be any of them, Greg. About the heart, that's been suggested a lot in the past. Who knows?

Mike

[GregBaron]

Bucket 'o Beer...

Greg,

a pail was exactly that, a pail of beer. It came in quarts and you could buy it at any pub because they didn't care much about rules and regulations.

Mike

Thanks Mike. I suppose this means you could buy it and carry it to the streets. I'm not sure why I find this amusing but I do. Which one of these was it?

Maybe he carried the heart away in said pail..?

Greg

[The Good Michael]

Greg,

a pail was exactly that, a pail of beer. It came in quarts and you could buy it at any pub because they didn't care much about rules and regulations.

Mike

[GregBaron]

Pot to p*ss in?

You are right about the investigation of Blotchy. I found a snippet in "The Echo" in which all the local pubs had their bar tenders chatted up concerning Blotchy. None recognised the description. Next they questioned the "pot boys" about "pot returns" at Miller's court. No luck again.

Sometimes we forget how thorough the Met were.

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn,

Can you tell me what the "pot" means? Also, and I've always gotten a kick out of this, what exactly is a pail of beer? I believe the coroner at the inquest later called it a "can". Can someone tell me what it might have looked like? I know it's probably irrelevant but I find it curious. Maybe, ie;, he didn't get it in a pub but at a private residence?

Also, was it permitted to be roaming the streets while swilling alcohol? Very much a no no today in most places...

Point. If Blotchy was so non-descript as to be unremembered by the local barmen (bartenders), doesn't this coincide with what we expect of JTR?

On another point, I don't think the killer was too concerned about witnesses as they seemed to abound...


Greg

[The Good Michael]

Hello Michael. Um, I don't smoke foreign substances.

I see. Favor the local stuff, do ye?

Mike