Suspects Poll

[spyglass]

Hi Tom,
I dont think the diary has been PROOVED to be a modern fake, And I am very sure that Mccormick has been dead a while now, so how did he admit to making the poem up.
Am I not right that a famouse London antiquarian book dealer's were 100 % certain that it came from the victorian period. Maybe there has been developments that I am not aware off, I do know that certain JTR historians claim to have certain imfo that shows it a modern fake.
Anyway I'm guessing then that you would bet your house on it NOT being Maybrick, I would not. We should play cards sometime!!

Best wishes.

ps. Where's Soothsayer when you need him ?

[Soothsayer]

Hi Tom,
I dont think the diary has been PROOVED to be a modern fake, And I am very sure that Mccormick has been dead a while now, so how did he admit to making the poem up.
Am I not right that a famouse London antiquarian book dealer's were 100 % certain that it came from the victorian period. Maybe there has been developments that I am not aware off, I do know that certain JTR historians claim to have certain imfo that shows it a modern fake.
Anyway I'm guessing then that you would bet your house on it NOT being Maybrick, I would not. We should play cards sometime!!

Best wishes.

ps. Where's Soothsayer when you need him ?

Always ready with the silver swishing/swooshing Sword of Righteousness and Truth, Spysie!

But first I have to go and have me tea. SuperHeroes have to eat too, you know!

But, as has been said before, I'll be back ...

[Jonathan H]

Thanks Lynn and Soothsayer

Friends and acquaintances of mine outside the 'community' who have a look at these sources, the MP and Mac's memoirs, always come away convinced it is Druitt, or at least that the perceived case against him must have been devastating.

These people also believe that Oswald killed Kennedy without assistance. Some are teachers, many are not.

Where they split -- in my disfavor -- is over my 'case disguised ' theory of Mac deliberately concealing or fictionalizing information.

Many just think that Mac met with the relevant bods in 1891, and a couple of years later he began to faultily recall the details of case he had never previously committed to paper, before the official version of his 'Report'.

Mac's fading memory simply merged young Druitt with his middle-aged surgeon father, and that's that.

But what counts, they argue, is that, in 1891, Mac agreed, rather than refuted, the certainty of the Druitt family.

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Spy. Actually, everything you wrote about the Diary is wrong, and yes, it's proved a fake. And although McCormick is now dead, you must remember that the Diary is almost 20 years old (since it's discovery..it's probably 25 years old in actuality), so he was alive long after it became public. I don't believe I said he 'just now' made this statement.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Wickerman]

I voted for "Other" and probably I'm right.

Jeff

Actually your "Other" is wrong, ...my "Unknown" is right!

[Wickerman]

Hello Jonathan. Well, I must say that Monty Druitt is doing well for himself, at least according to the numbers at this point.

Aha, there's a Dark Horse, ...Druitt. Still sitting as prime suspect yet no-one talks about him any more.

I'd have to conceed there was an unusual number of "well-dressed" men hovering around Stride, and Dorset St. for that matter, not forgetting Mrs Long's sighting.

Regards, Jon S.

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Wick. If you miss people talking about Druitt, just say 'Hi' to Jonathan H and await the reply.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Supe]

Jon,
Aha, there's a Dark Horse, ...Druitt. Still sitting as prime suspect yet no-one talks about him any more.

To follow up on what Tom said, Jonathan Hainsworth had a massive, tour de force of an article about Macnaghten anf Druitt in the recent first issue of the New Independent Review. If you didn't get your free copy check it out under the Periodicals>New Independent Review thread.

Don.

[Magpie]

I'm still an unapologetic, though not dogmatic, Druittist

[lynn cates]

and then there's . . .

Hello Jon and Tom. Don't forget John Ruffles.

Cheers.
LC

[Scott Nelson]

Got any more of those time-lapsed photos of the spider bite on the finger?

[mariab]

Just voted – for 3 candidates. 4, if you consider “other“ and “unknown“ as separate entities.
Wanna bet the third person having voted for Le Grand is Abby Normal.
And I don't get the Spiderman reference.

[Jonathan H]

To Wickerman

I don't think Druitt, if he was the murderer, was 'well-dressed' in Whitechapel at night (during the day, doing charity work as an Oxonian volunteer at Toynbee Hall -- if he did this -- a different story).

Druitt obviously, generically matches Lawende's Gentile-featured 'Jack the Sailor': lithe, medium height, a small, fair moustache -- at least according to his Winchester pics.

Even more interesting is the lengths to which Macnaghten went to obscure Lawende and his sighting. In the official version of his 'Home Office Report' there are no decent witnesses worth mentioning. None. In the alternate version, disseminated to the public, a cop sees a Slavic Jew.

In his memoirs this 'sighting' is downgraded to virtually nothing.

Nobody agrees, but all this to me is Macnaghten airbrushing out a sighting of what he thinks, perhaps wrongly, must be Druitt.

I am not an apologetic, quiche-eating Druittist of old, but a militant, 'Peace, Bread, Land -- All Power to the Soviets!' Neo-Druittist.

[Phil H]

'Peace, Bread, Land -- All Power to the Soviets!'

I like the case against Druitt, the Soviets are history - dead and done with no expectation of coming back!

Phil

[Jonathan H]

Thanks Phil H, I had noticed those developments in world events -- I was speaking metaphorically.