Robert Louis Stevenson

[jsantos]

RLS was several times in London. He knew London very well. By the way Robert lived in bournemouth between July of 1884 until August of 1887.

He`s departure of London in 1887, only one year before Jack the Ripper crimes can be much more than a coincidence.

It would be the perfect alibi.

[TomTomKent]

I see that this thread went on for several more pages of groundless speculation after I last read it, and has had absolutely zero facts added in support of RandomCelebrity#1989786 being the Ripper.Just more "If people had lied about it, and if people had known he was famous and...." kind of ramblings.

Here's a news flash. If Santa was real he could have slipped out of Whitechappel with out being seen. Baring in mind we know where Stevenson was at the time, and the crux of this idea is what might have been in a different version of a book that wasn't published, and might have just been the morbid imaginings of a writer, then on balance Santa who has no alibi is surely the better suspect?

[jsantos]

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[jsantos]

I sent an email to the administrators of the site to say that they could erase this post if this violated some rule.

So...

This post is about a hypothetical theory.

If you do not agree... Ok

If you do not like... Ok

If you find nonsense... Ok

Why you do not send an email to the administrators complaining?

[jsantos]

Miss Marple

What`s your problem???

[miss marple]

Your the joke Mr Santos,
'Famous people' as you call them usually have very well documented lives, so we know a lot about them.
No 'famous person' has turned out to be a psychopathic serial killer yet.
Artists and writers are creatives who contribute to our understanding of ourselves and the society in which we live.The drives that make us creative are different from the destructive force that makes a serial killer. Psychos lack empathy. Creatives have it to an excessive degree.
You posts are offensive, you will never destroy a mind greater than yours.

Miss Marple

[jsantos]

Ok, I understood. The famous people are free of any suspicion…
What a joke...

[Phil Carter]

Mr Santos.

I have just wasted an hour of my life reading your speculative suggestion and your petulant rejection of the well-reasoned counter-arguments. This is, without doubt, the silliest of the many silly theories inflicted on Casebook members. Robert Louis Stevenson was in the South Seas throughout the Autumn of Terror. There is abundant evidence that this was so. He was a sick man and in the wrong hemisphere, so he simply cannot be the Whitechapel Murderer

There is no evidence to support your case and there never will be.

Regards, Bridewell.

Hello Bridewell,

Thank you for giving me an extra hour to enjoy otherwise.
The silliest? Well Sooty, the 5 inch glove puppet mentioned by Sugden still gets my vote.

Find a famous contemporary name and pin the tail on the donkey seems to be the rage at the moment. Quoits, anyone?

Best wishes

Phil

[jsantos]

Mr Bridewell,

I was happy knowing that you weren`t indifferent regarding this theory.

Thank you

[Bridewell]

Mr Santos.

I have just wasted an hour of my life reading your speculative suggestion and your petulant rejection of the well-reasoned counter-arguments. This is, without doubt, the silliest of the many silly theories inflicted on Casebook members. Robert Louis Stevenson was in the South Seas throughout the Autumn of Terror. There is abundant evidence that this was so. He was a sick man and in the wrong hemisphere, so he simply cannot be the Whitechapel Murderer

There is no evidence to support your case and there never will be.

Regards, Bridewell.

[jsantos]

The reason why no one will discover the identity of jack is obvious. He proved to everyone that was not in whitechapel at the time of the crimes. It's sad because this is a lie that everyone believes. This became the best possible alibi. All other facts lose all importance.

[jsantos]

As I said many posts ago...
"I propose, if it be not too late, to delete Lloyd's
name. He has nothing to do with the last half. The first we
wrote together, as the beginning of a long yarn. The second
is entirely mine; and I think it rather unfair on the young
man to couple his name with so infamous a work." - RLS words about "The Ebb Tide"

It is clear that the second part of the story tells of RLS personal feelings!
Otherwise did not make sense to want the name of Lloyd was not part of the book.

[jsantos]

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is based on what? East End of London for sure. And a writer to be based on something you need to know well that something. RLS had always liked to enjoy the pleasures of the night in the old part of Edinburgh. Must also have experienced the pleasures of the night in the old part of London.
And it is clear that is not registered.

[Phil H]

Broadening out this discussion, I was thinking last night, that the cultural milieu in which the Whitechapel murders erupted, was a particularly thick and rich soup (if I a milieu can also be a soup!!).

On the one hand we have the emergence of a popular press eager to disseminate and gain leverage from current events.

On the other we have Fenian activity.

And into the midst of this comes Mansfield's disturbing visualisation of RLS's tale of Jeykll and Hyde.

Maybe it is only that certain ideas were "in vogue" at the time - the emergence of psychology, for instance. Modern society was beginning to come into being with many new scientific and mechanical inventions. (1888 is still "Dickensian" in many ways but also very different from the world of Bleak House and Scrooge.)

So I suppose it is possible that, assuming journalists WERE responsible for the nom-de-crime "Jack the Ripper" that they were influenced by some of the things that jsantos has been referring to.

(I do NOT include in this the anachronistic "homosexual" angle, which is clearly nonsense.

But that said, a journalist could have been to the Lyceum to see the play, and have used that to conjure a "character" in which guise he could fake a letter. Is the stagey, false common/subliminal learned tone of the JtR letter a product of a self-imagined character, by a journalist who tries to write in that style. In other words, is the letter something he imagines Dr Jekyll might have written while under the influence of Mr Hyde?

Just musings, please disagree.

Phil

[Limehouse]

Limehouse,

Who was Jack the Ripper? I always said that RLS was inspired by her character Dr. Jekyll.
In relation to homosexuality I said the words are not mine. I just wanted to know your opinion if Dr. Jekyll was or wasn`t homosexual.
Is common knowledge that prostitutes are "the weakest link" in society, for murderers.

I'm still rather confused and not at all persuaded. But then - I never could be persuaded that the Whitechapel killer was a well-known person. I have always believed he was an unknown local - or at least an unknown who knew the area well. I don't think I would ever be convinced otherwise.