Robert Louis Stevenson

[jsantos]

"There was a book published, some years before the Titanic sank." (Phil H)
The Ebb-Tide was a book published, some years after the Jack the Ripper murders.
So it`s different. But ok it`s your point of view.

"Because they were both born in Edinburgh?" (Rubyretro)
It`s a coincidence, but many people say that James Monro knew the identity of RLS or he was more informed about the case than most if not all his contemporaries. The words are not mine. If that fact it`s true and I think RLS was Jack, is possible that Monro has hidden RLS. Why? I don`t know...
It`s probable? plausible? Maybe not. But RLS have much more in common with Jack the Ripper than most of the suspects.

If most of you are interested I can continue my theory.
Thank you

[Phil H]

Almost anything is "possible" - but probable? plausible?

[TomTomKent]

Of all the senior police officials who were involved with the Jack the Ripper case, James Monro remains the most enigmatic. He alone amongst the high ranking policemen did not publish any memoirs and yet it is possible that he was more informed about the case than most if not all his contemporaries. If anybody knew the truth about the events of 1888 it was him. (Andrew L Morrison - casebook)

James Monro born like RLS in Edimburgh.

I think James Monro knew the identity of Jack the Ripper. If RLS, a brilliant scottish writer was Jack, is possible that Monro has hidden the identity of the most famous serial killer in history.

That is a pretty unlikely "possible" tacked to an "If" that makes little sense. I doubt being a brilliant writer, Scottish or otherwise, is a good enough reason to hide the identity IF Monro knew it and IF it was RLS.

Example:
If Monro knew Queen Victoria was the Ripper it is possible he framed RLS. Equally implausible, but also "possible".

[Rubyretro]

Why ? Because they were both born in Edinburgh ?

[jsantos]

James Monro



Of all the senior police officials who were involved with the Jack the Ripper case, James Monro remains the most enigmatic. He alone amongst the high ranking policemen did not publish any memoirs and yet it is possible that he was more informed about the case than most if not all his contemporaries. If anybody knew the truth about the events of 1888 it was him. (Andrew L Morrison - casebook)

James Monro born like RLS in Edimburgh.

I think James Monro knew the identity of Jack the Ripper. If RLS, a brilliant scottish writer was Jack, is possible that Monro has hidden the identity of the most famous serial killer in history.

[jsantos]

In the next replies I promise to continue to try to write in English.

Thank you

[jsantos]

The RLS life...

"Robert Herrick was the son of an intelligent, active and ambitious man (...) he was sent to a good school (...) With all his talent and taste (and he had much of both) Robert was deficient in consistency and intellectual manhood, wandered in bypaths of study (...) He had no head for figures, no interest in affairs, detested the constraint of hours, and despised the aims and the success of merchants." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide" (Like RLS life. About the name Robert Herrick - Robert from RLS and Herrick from Jack)

"His career thenceforth was one of unbroken shame. (...) his day was a tissue of things neglected and things done amiss; and from place to place and from town to town, he carried the character of one thoroughly incompetent. No man can bear the word applied to him without some flush of colour, as indeed there is none other that so emphatically slams in a man`s face the door of self-respect. And to Herrick, who was conscious of talents and acquirements, who looked down upon those humble duties in which he has found wanting, the pain was the more exquisite." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide" (RLS words: In all places they accuse me to be an immoral writer; it is deplorable.)

"He was used to another life, to houses, beds, nursing, and the dainties of the sickroom..." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide" (Like RLS life...)

[jsantos]

The perfect alibi - Samoa

"I got a ship. (...) out of San Francisco..." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide" (COINCIDENCE Ship out of San Francisco!!! like RLS ship "Casco"!)

"Ah, but this is the jail!" - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

"It can`t last longer, they`ve got their eye on us; and as sure as you live, in three weeks you`ll be in jail whatever you do." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

"...and carry out the Samoa scheme hand over fist." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

[jsantos]

The alias - Jack the Ripper

"...at some stage of the descent, had been shamed into the adoption of an alias." - In the RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

"...about a year before this tale begins, turned suddenly upon the streets of San Francisco (...) changed his name..." - In the RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"
(One more coincidence: a year before jack the ripper - 1887, RLS it was in United States)

"...the alias betrayed his moral bankruptcy..." - In the RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

Why Jack the Ripper?

Maybe because RLS it always called Buildy Jack to its tuberculosis.

"...the most pitiable, was the London clerk. He was used to another life, to houses, beds, nursing, and the dainties of the sickroom (...) He was besides infirm; the disease shook him to the vitals..." - In the RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

"...lay back ghastly and spent after a paroxysm of coughing..." - In the RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

"...the thought of death is always the least supportable..." - In the RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

[jsantos]

The crimes (continuation)

"...cut your throat."
"...more than usually violent."
"...the disfigured corpse..."
"...the chamber of a murdered corpse..."
"These are the diversions of a lonely man..."
"There is your Whitechapel carrion!"
"This is the way the tailor does, the tailor does."
"...of the figure-head."
And much more... (All in RLS book "The Ebb-Tide")

[jsantos]

The Goulston Street graffito

"It came to him of a sudden that he too must leave upon these walls the memorial of his passage." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

"...wrote in the famous phrase from the Fifth Symphony." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide" (fifth symphony/the goulston street graffito it was made after the fifth crime)

"Ha, he shall have Latin too!" - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide" (mentioning the word badly written Jews)

[Phil H]

I cannot read Spenish so cannot follow this thread.

Nevertheless, if the quotes from The Ebb Tide are mean to make a connection with JtR or the Ripper letters, I would just like to point out that tThere was a book published, some years before the Titanic sank, that had a ship called the "GIGantic" go down with loss of life and with many details similar to the 1912 disaster.

Would anyone claim that the author of that book had a hand in, caused or otherwise played a part in the sinking of the Titanic?

I think the word we are looking for is COINCIDENCE.

But maybe I missed the point of the thread....

Phil

[jsantos]

The letters

"The three letters." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

"They had both used the same alias. - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

"I`ve a good fist with a pen when I choose, and this is a prime lark." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

[jsantos]

The crimes

"Five men and a woman murdered. Yes, there was a woman on board, and hadn`t no business to be either. Guess I sent her to Hell, if there is such a place. - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

Five men - disdain for the women (in this case the prostitutes M. Tabram, M. A. Nichols, A. Chapman, E. Stride and C. Eddowes)

A woman - mentioning M. J. Kelly (The most beautiful of all six). In "The Ebb-Tide" story the woman name is Sally (Sally/Kelly - Coincidence???)

"I dislike men, and hate women." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

"A man never knows when he may be inclined to be a fool about women." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"

[jsantos]

The confession

"Murder ain`t genteel, it ain`t easy, it ain`t safe, and it tykes a man to do it. `Ere`s the man." - In RLS book "The Ebb-Tide"