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  • Phil H
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    Jordan

    In the Madame Tussauds thread you wrote:

    I saw your two suspects- Druitt and Kosminski, thats cool.You may be onto something with Kosminski probably being at or near the scene of one of the crimes. But just my opinion, from everything I've read it seems to me the Police were focusing on the wrong type of suspect. Like homosexuals, those mentally ill, butchers,mad doctors, people committed to asylums (although I am intrigued by James Kelly who did escape from Broadmoor though I don't think he was insane.) To me this ,among many other factors, is why Jack the Ripper was never caught. Its not that they were stupid or bad Policemen or weren't trying to do their best, its just they had never dealt with something of this magnitude. Its like learning on the job. I think George Hutchinson is an important witness and I'll go ahead and say it, THE most important witness in this case. Look at his description of the person seen with Kelly. Its like the guy is flaunting himself and no ones noticing. Hes like "Here I am all dressed to the nines and they still won't get me. I'll flaunt my wealth and intelligence...."

    I'm not sure I fully follow your drift, but if you are saying - as the last sentence implies - that JtR was a "toff", then I'd have to disagree quite strongly.

    I don't think there is any evidence to suggest someone in full evening dress, top hat, opera cloak and toting a Gladstone bag. Quite apart from the sheer impracticality, there is NO evidence of such a person being seen in connection with ANY of the murders. The descriptions we have (right or not) are all of working men in working clothes.

    Of the contemporary suspects, Pizer was a local worker, Kosminski was a local man, Druitt (had he gone to the East End) would probably have dressed down - and still have stood out.

    All the evidence suggests to me a local man, living close to the crime scenes and striking out at certain times.

    The movies love the conspiracy theories and the "traditional" JtR regalia (often complete with carriage), but whether upper class people "slummed" or not, such ideas don't ring true to me - I don't see the caped figure sweeping away from Buck's Row unnoticed, or slipping out of the front door of 29 Hanbury St unseen. At 5.30ish in the morning he would have attracted attention.

    But maybe I have misunderstood you.

    Best wishes,

    Phil

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Jimi View Post
    Hi All
    Hi Abby
    You ask me for my reasons as too believing Jacob Levy as JTR. I don`t want to hi-jack somebody elses thread and there are other threads too discuss this on. However i am allowed too give you my top 3 reasons -:
    1. Method
    2. Motive
    3. Opportunity
    Please feel free to ask any other questions on a Levy thread (Jacob the Ripper) perhaps.
    Keep Well
    Jimi
    Thanks Jimi
    I followed up on your JL thread and read it for your detalis. Interesting charactor/theory. Thanks!

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  • mariab
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    my 3 top suspects

    1. Barnett or someone local and unconspicuous. I'm currently reading Paley, but I developped this opinion already the very first time I went through the suspects list posted on casebook. I might feel like writing about this at some point.
    2. Local Jew (Cohen/Kaminsky etc.), see Fido's theory. More research in the London archives remains to be conducted on this though, and I'd SO wished that it might turn up fruitful.
    3. Possibly Le Grand or Tumblety, but I need to read Examiner 2 to absorb the newest info on these two “gentlemen“ before making up my mind.
    PS.: The Ripper probably had MOM issues in abundance.
    Last edited by mariab; 07-11-2010, 12:12 AM.

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  • tji
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    Hi Tom

    It's generally called MOM, Jimi.


    I think he is just teasing you


    tj

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    It's generally called MOM, Jimi.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • Jimi
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    Poor MOM

    Hi All
    Hi Tom
    Can i ask, are you talking in anagrams or has the dyslexia kicked in?
    Cos, what i typed is MMO.
    Although at this time of night and a tot or two i quite often read in anagramese
    Keep Well
    Jimi

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    There goes Jimi, blaming everything on good ol' MOM!

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • Jimi
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    Jacob

    Hi All
    Hi Abby
    You ask me for my reasons as too believing Jacob Levy as JTR. I don`t want to hi-jack somebody elses thread and there are other threads too discuss this on. However i am allowed too give you my top 3 reasons -:
    1. Method
    2. Motive
    3. Opportunity
    Please feel free to ask any other questions on a Levy thread (Jacob the Ripper) perhaps.
    Keep Well
    Jimi

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  • Radical Joe
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    Originally posted by Kaspar View Post
    I would really love to see the Mystery Files: Jack the Ripper programme where Levy is put forward as the major suspect - but I have not been able to find it.
    It's available to watch anytime via National Geographic On Demand, if you can access it. I get it through Tiscali.

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  • tji
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    Hi Scott

    Jacob Levy was too fat to have been the Ripper
    .


    Well, I that's a new alibi, I haven't heard that one before!!

    I have to admit I have only seen the weight given while he was into stone and that was 5ft 3 and 9st 3Ib. I don't see this as being too fat

    Tj

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  • Scott Nelson
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    Jacob Levy was too fat to have been the Ripper.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Jimi View Post
    Hi All
    Yes i`ll name my top 3 suspects, however i doubt that we will ever find PROOF of his guilt.
    1 jacob levy
    2 Jacob Levy
    3 Jacob Levy

    He just fits the profile in every way. I have to admit it has taken myself and others over 5 years of digging to discover the reasons behind our convictions and still can`t PROVE he was the man but I can`t see another more suitable candidate. Keep your Kosminski,Druitt and Tumblety, Levy was the MAN for me.
    That`s in my opinion of course.
    Gentleman Jack .... Hi
    You said according to your sources that Jacob was an Offal Dresser and that this would give him the neccesary knowledge and necessary speed to commit the murders. May i ask what leads you to that conclusion as i do have knowledge of an Offal Dressers capabilities?
    Hi Kaspar
    You mention that no research is being investigated as to Jacob being a viable JTR suspect. Perhaps you would like to check out our thread Jacob the Ripper or even PM myself. Our research has now spanned over 5 years and we would quite willingly share any information with interested members of casebook.
    Versa
    And thers more!!!!
    This is the 21st century. Please lets get away from the Royal conspiracy,The Kosminski, Cohen ruse. Tumblety has so little going for him. Why can`t we see that Levy is a major suspect?
    Keep Well and thank you for your time
    Jimi
    Hi Jimi
    Why is he your man? I am intrigued-can you please give me some details as to why you think he was JtR? Thanks in advance!

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  • Kaspar
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    Originally posted by Jimi View Post
    Hi Kaspar
    You mention that no research is being investigated as to Jacob being a viable JTR suspect. Perhaps you would like to check out our thread Jacob the Ripper or even PM myself. Our research has now spanned over 5 years and we would quite willingly share any information with interested members of casebook.
    Hi Jimi,
    I have with interest read your Jacob the Ripper thread and will continue to do so as it is updated.

    What I meant with no research being done into Levy was that he seems to be the suspect that most of the well-known and experienced researchers such as Rumbelow, Evans, Begg and Fido have not commented about him. All documentaries focus on other suspects(Mystery Files: Jack the Ripper being the exception - but I have yet to see that one unfortunately). The Rippercast episodes have never mentioned him. I find this very strange as he fits the bill so perfectly.

    I have even suggested a Rippercast episode that deals with Jacob Levy in particular whether he has ever been completely ruled out because of factual evidence.

    I admit that I had not heard of Jacob Levy until the Sherlock Holmes vs. Jack the Ripper game came out and the pointed to Levy. That peaked my interest and so far no one except Fido's theory on David Cohen is close to being my prime suspect. I'm interested in the mystery, the time perioed and who the hell he was, but I'm not a researcher at all, I just read what other people find with interest.

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  • Jimi
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    Top 3 suspects

    Hi All
    Yes i`ll name my top 3 suspects, however i doubt that we will ever find PROOF of his guilt.
    1 jacob levy
    2 Jacob Levy
    3 Jacob Levy

    He just fits the profile in every way. I have to admit it has taken myself and others over 5 years of digging to discover the reasons behind our convictions and still can`t PROVE he was the man but I can`t see another more suitable candidate. Keep your Kosminski,Druitt and Tumblety, Levy was the MAN for me.
    That`s in my opinion of course.
    Gentleman Jack .... Hi
    You said according to your sources that Jacob was an Offal Dresser and that this would give him the neccesary knowledge and necessary speed to commit the murders. May i ask what leads you to that conclusion as i do have knowledge of an Offal Dressers capabilities?
    Hi Kaspar
    You mention that no research is being investigated as to Jacob being a viable JTR suspect. Perhaps you would like to check out our thread Jacob the Ripper or even PM myself. Our research has now spanned over 5 years and we would quite willingly share any information with interested members of casebook.
    Versa
    And thers more!!!!
    This is the 21st century. Please lets get away from the Royal conspiracy,The Kosminski, Cohen ruse. Tumblety has so little going for him. Why can`t we see that Levy is a major suspect?
    Keep Well and thank you for your time
    Jimi

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  • Versa
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    Originally posted by Kaspar View Post
    1) Jacob Levy
    - Right age, profile, height
    - Residence at Middlesex St. is right in the middle of the murders.
    - Explains why Joseph Hyam Levy would not testify as to whom he saw with Eddows
    - Butcher by trade, had knives and knew who to use them
    - Goulston St. Grafito fits with Levy having been arrested from stealing meat from butcher shop in Goulston St.
    - Became more and more insane due to syphilis, which in the end killed him.
    - Motive for the killings - syphilis possibly contracted by postitutes.
    - Might even be Anderson's suspect, but I don't know whether the Levy's where originally from Poland.
    - Whitechapel murder case closed shotly after his death at the asylum.

    Amazingly there is almost no research being done on Levy, but he looks to me to fit the bill a lot more than must other victims.
    definatly my number 1

    2. 1.As yet,unknown/unnamed local man

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