Robert Mann - A 'New' Suspect

[Chris]

Hello. Although I do not consider Mann a prime suspect, the problem of motive is uppermost in my mind.

I think it has to be said that - in the absence of any suggestion as to how he could have got out of the workhouse at night - he actually has an alibi for all the murders. I'm really not sure there's much point in discussing the other problems until that one has been dealt with.

[lynn cates]

Mann's motive

Hello. Although I do not consider Mann a prime suspect, the problem of motive is uppermost in my mind. What could such a thing have been?

Let's try this. If he were a mortuary attendant, it seems natural that he would have seen an autopsy or two. If he were mentally unstable he could be in some dissociative state. Perhaps he fancies himself a doctor in front of colleagues performing an autopsy himself.

Try this scenario while reading the inquest report on Eddowes. Interesting thought experiment.

Cheers.
LC

[Tom_Wescott]

Nevermind, I saw on another thread it's MJ Trow. Mann sounds like someone Lestrade would suspect, so it makes sense this is coming from Trow. I tried reading one of his overpriced Lestrade fiction books and was bored to tears. Couldn't make it half-way through.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Tom_Wescott]

What book and who's 'MJ'?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Monty]

Heh, funny yoy should say that Tom.

MJs book is being pushed at the conf.

Monty

[Tom_Wescott]

Robert Mann. That's hilarious. And since psychological and geographical profiling have yet to catch a modern serial killer, I fail to see how they'll catch a long dead one. It's soooo 1990's. I truly hope no book or doc comes out naming Mann as the Ripper.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[richardnunweek]

Hi,
I watched the programme, but it did absolutely nothing for me, I am so tired of seeing women walking in victorian costume, being followed , and the predictable scream being echoed into our living rooms, and as for the suspect Mann ferociously stabbing at a victim... oh dear.
It was suggested that he got great pleasure in admiring his own handywork , was he present at the patching up of kelly, that would be the ultimate thrill?.
I admit that a named attendant such as Mann is a original idea, but does it deserve a documentary, when there is not a shred of evidence, was he the only attendant in whitechapel at that time?
I guess i have been intrested in this subject for too long, and am difficult to please.
Regards Richard.

[Chris]

But have you realised that some on here will not accept experts opinion.

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If that's directed at me, I think you should take another look at the foregoing discussion.

What I was pointing out was that The Grave Maurice was correct in saying that Trow suggested most of the stab wounds were inflicted on Tabram's body post mortem - a view which you yourself implied belonged in a fairytale. As scarletpimpernel has confirmed, s/he had misunderstood what The Grave Maurice meant.

The "expert opinion" related to the type of weapon used to inflict the stab wounds, which is obviously a different question, and one which I haven't expressed any opinion about either way.

[Trevor Marriott]

Chris,

. Now then, this is an expert opinion and not one that can be put aside or ignored. Try to relax, getting all worked up, won't do anything for your health.

But have you realised that some on here will not accept experts opinion.

For what its worth Mr Dean a vrey nice man as he was "sat firmly on the fence"

[scarletpimpernel]

Yes, clearly you misunderstood what the other poster had said. The purpose of my posts has been to try to clarify the resulting confusion - that's all.

Okay. All is well now.

[Chris]

As I said before. I thought the other poster was saying that the murder weapon in all the killings was a bayonet ...

Yes, clearly you misunderstood what the other poster had said. The purpose of my posts has been to try to clarify the resulting confusion - that's all.

[scarletpimpernel]

No, I'm sorry, the original poster was entirely accurate when he said that Trow was suggesting "The bayonet killed her, and then Mann stabbed the body", and you were wrong to suggest otherwise. That is quite clear from the excerpt that's available on the Discovery Channel website.

The question of what weapon Mann is supposed to have used is a separate one, which hadn't been mentioned at all in the posts you were responding to.

Chris,

As I said before. I thought the other poster was saying that the murder weapon in all the killings was a bayonet and I was surprised about that, since the murder weapon that Meir Trow is proposing is a post-mortem knife and Dr. Peter Deen, coroner for Whitechapel confirmed his theory he said yes, that a post mortem knife is a possibility. Now then, this is an expert opinion and not one that can be put aside or ignored. Try to relax, getting all worked up, won't do anything for your health.

[Chris]

Hi Chris-
It's on String's Individual forum 'Strings'- 'Jack the Rpper:Killer Revealed'

Ah - that explains why I couldn't find it. Apparently it's visible to members only. Never mind.

In that preview, is Trow really saying that the Wentworth Str. Arch is "all that's left of George Yard builings?"

Perhaps Philip Hutchinson should step aside, and allow Mr. Trow to conduct the tour, at the upcoming Conference.

[Suzi]

Hi Chris-
It's on String's Individual forum 'Strings'- 'Jack the Rpper:Killer Revealed'