Jack The Rippers Real Name? Anyone Know Or Have Any Idea?

[Captain Hook]

there was some ding dong on another part of this forum that i said something
too about his comment that in 1650 the judge presiding
over a trial of witches was american... i just shook my head and reminded
him that america wasnt even created untill 1776 and that that judge was
a wart of the CATHOLIC CHURCH, not an american... there were no americans in 1650 excecpt the native indians.....LOL

whatcha goanna do... cant live with em, cant shoot em....gezzzzzzzzzzzzz

Hi WH,

What was created in 1776 was not America but the United States of America. The continent called America, which is composed of North, Central and South America, was never created as such. When the Europeans came across it and realised it was not the Indies they decided they had discovered it and named it America after one Amerigo Vespucci who people wrongly believed was the one who found it.

In 1650, smack in the middle of the 17th century, Oliver Cromwell was Lord Protector of England and the Catholic Church held no sway over the American Colonies - i.e., the thirteen British colonies on the East Coast of America. The witch trials in Salem, Massachussets, and other parts of the present USA were conducted under Puritan judges.

We all make mistakes.

Cheers
Hook

[Graham]

Mr Werewolf Hunter,

First, have you ever caught any?

Second, let me quote you the poet John Donne:

Licence my roving hands, and let them go,
Before, behind, between, above, below.
O my America! my new-found-land,
My kingdom, safliest when with one man mann'd.

I think it was a touch of parody, but nevertheless Mr Donne lived from 1571 to 1631, and was able, apparently, to refer to America as being a country and so, presumably, those who lived there, native or not, were Americans.

It is the United States Of America that didn't exist before 1776.

Excuse me, must rush, I've just spotted another hair that needs splitting.

Graham

PS: regarding Lindsey's original post, I rather got the impression she was asking if there is any clue in the JtR letters as to the WM's first name, rather than asking if his actual identity has been established.

[poorhoney]

John "Jack" Diddles

[Sam Flynn]

The Reverend Josiah Inkblot Scratchnipple was the vicar who presided at my wedding. He was an okay bloke, in certain ways. Where did you find his name?

... Rubber News

[Graham]

Bloody hell, Sam: you DO know him!!

Graham

[George Hutchinson]

Just want to clarify something regarding my post #21...

When I said that some newbies deserve a thrashing, I meant that the newbie who started this thread was not amongst them! There's a big difference between a polite question and the stupid gumpf that some people come up with.

It was that Maibrik guy coz he wrote it all down in that book.

PHILIP

[Captain Hook]

Just want to clarify something regarding my post #21...

When I said that some newbies deserve a thrashing, I meant that the newbie who started this thread was not amongst them! There's a big difference between a polite question and the stupid gumpf that some people come up with.

It was that Maibrik guy coz he wrote it all down in that book.

PHILIP

Philip,

I heartily agree and that's why I said we should be a little kinder to newbies. We were all newbies once. Well, most of us. I could think of some exceptions.

Cheers
Hook

[Ashkenaz]

His name might have been Humphry John Smith.

No. His name was Percy Smythe Chumley Walker. I know because I have just uncovered his awful autobiography. I found it underneath the bedroom floorboards of my Victorian Cottage. It was in an old gladstone bag along with a rancid snail. Then again, it might have been half an old kidne.

My soon to be best seller should be out by xmas. Signed copies will be available for a modest surcharge..

[Lesley-Jane]

Hello Lesley. Thank you for sharing. I think a panel of policemen voted Kosminski unanimously.

I think we all wish we knew what Sir Melville meant by the special "circs" in Aaron's case. What's your theory?

Cheers.
LC

Hello Lynn

My theory is the police couldn't prosecute Kosminsky because he wasn't fit to plead innocent or guilty due to being insane.

[Stewart P Evans]

Distant Days

Hello Lesley. Thank you for sharing. I think a panel of policemen voted Kosminski unanimously.
I think we all wish we knew what Sir Melville meant by the special "circs" in Aaron's case. What's your theory?
Cheers.
LC

You must mean the 1988 Cosgrove-Muerer documentary The Secret Identity of Jack the Ripper hosted by Peter Ustinov. Actually there wasn't one police officer on the panel (unless you count Bill Waddell who was an ex-police officer).

Macnaghten actually wrote 'many circs', not 'special circs'. I'm not nit-picking, just trying to clarify the situation. And he does not specify 'Aaron', he refers merely to 'Kosminski'. If you watch the above documentary, which is very entertaining, it will be seen that 'Ripperology' has come a long way since the distant days of the centenary.

[Bob Hinton]

Acceptance of poor standards?

Hello everybody,

I don't think Lauren is coming back to this thread. It's a pity, because she wanted to find out about something and she thought she had come to the right place. Let's be kinder to the new additions to the Ripper family.

Cheers
Hook

What utter tosh! If Lauren wished to find out anything about JTR then she has the whole of the internet to assist her in her search, not to mention two excellent sites exclusively dedicated to JTR.
If she seriously wants to undertake research into the subject there are hundreds of people on this and other sites who would bend over backwards to help her. However she has to play her part, she has to do some of the work and part of that work is learning how to communicate effectively, which on this site means using the English language. If she cannot be bothered even to do that why should she expect everyone else to run around on her behalf?
If you want to play on someone else’s playing field then it is up to you as the guest ( albeit uninvited) to make the best possible effort, the sloppy, haphazard way that some people wander through life makes my blood boil – and then they expect everyone to treat them gently because they are new! For that very reason you should make an extra effort - not little or none!
Her dedication to her task can best be judged by the fact that she made one post and vanished!

[Bob Hinton]

Agreed.


Bob - you missed an apostrophe in the word 'Lauren's' when your were criticising her punctuation.

PHILIP

Thank you for pointing that out. Punctuation has always been a bit of a bugbear with me. The difference between Lauren and me is that I try to get it right - she obviously cannot be bothered.

[Captain Hook]

Hello Bob,

I thought you were aware that my standards as regards the use of the English language are rather exacting, perhaps because I came by them the hard way. Yet I don't think it's necessary to ask too much from a newcomer whose first post this was and who hasn't had much of a chance to acquaint herself with this forum. To judge from her post, Lauren must be a young person growing up in the era of e-mails, texts and rap. Her standards are probably those of her age group, which are very different from ours. If she returns to this thread, and to this forum as a whole, we might wish to offer some guidance. If she was, as it appears, just a flash on the pan, or even less than that, we don't need to worry too much about her contaminating our standards.

Cheers
Eduardo

[lynn cates]

thanks

Hello Mr. Evans. Thanks. I presume that was the programme. I did not watch it--I merely have it second or third hand. I think their reasoning had something to do with his fitting the FBI profile?

I thought I had indicated special "circs" not "special circs." I did not recall the adjective so I supplied one. I think we all hope it was not merely the fact that Kosminski had a curious habit and an inadequate home life. If I recall, geography played a (minor?) role in his candidacy.

I suppose that he must still be regarded a prime suspect, given the investigators thought so and I respect their opinions. He does seem an ill fit to me, but I am unaware of those circs.

Cheers.
LC

[Bob Hinton]

Precisely!

Hello Bob,

Her standards are probably those of her age group, which are very different from ours.
Cheers
Eduardo

Precisely, and those standards are abysmal. Standards are nowadays slipping down so fast I wonder where they are going to hit bottom. When my son was in junior school in the early eighties I was horrified to find out that at the age of 11 he still had not been taught cursive script, the class was still writing in pencil on lined paper in block capitals.

Checking back to my old school books I find I was writing with pen and ink (dipping pen) in cursive script and constructing essays at the age of 7!
Nowadays part of my job is to give talks in colleges and schools. I was horrified to find students studying for a degree turning in rubbish like this. No capitalization, no sentence structure and ultimately no sense. Yet these are the people who are going to be running the banks and the country in a couple of decades.
No wonder we have students joining Universities who are being given lessons in how to write, something they should have learnt in Junior school.
Because of these appalling standards their degrees are now worthless, and as for A levels – what a joke.
Do you realize you can get a grade A+ in a subject even after getting 75% of the paper wrong?
When I do lecture I do not let the students settle for sloppy, I insist that if I am giving my best then they should do no less. Do you know who appreciate that the most? The students. The teachers in the main are quite happy to settle for any old rubbish.