Mr Blotchy

[SuspectZero]

I used Cox's testimony - what did you use?

I see you are choosing to ignore my question, so I will ignore you as well.

[Abby Normal]

Hi Abby,
Here's a little info on what I know about him:
George Compton (Warrant number 53393)
Born: approximately (Jul-Aug or Sept) 1845 in Sandhurst, Gloucestershire, England
Parents were Samuel & Louisa Compton (can't locate the marriage info)
Joined Metropolitan Police on the 5/12/1870 and assigned to K Division and served there until 6/30/1880.
Transferred to H (Whitechapel) Division on the 1/7/1880 and served there until he retired on the 6/30/1888. 18 years total service.
Interestingly, he seems to be confused as to the right place and date of his birth in his final paperwork, stating he was born in 1842 in Cheltenham.
His retirement started 7/1/1888 with a pension of £22.9.4. per year. At that time he was married to Faith Compton.
in the 1881 census he lived at 115 Old Church Rd Tower Hamlet – Mile End.
in 1888 he resided at 115 Finnis Street, Bethnal Green.
His family life is more interesting....

Thanks suspect.
Can you please provide more details or source for the arrests as the ripper.

[Wickerman]

Compton was twice arrested as a suspect Jack.
I won't restate the blotchy face descriptions because I'm sure you know most of them and I'm sure you can read them at the beginning of the thread, but there are similarities to the description of Compton, whose face is described as florid. I don't recall anyone having blotchy's birth date, so your 36 year old comment seems cherry picked, as does your 5'5 description, as there is a 5'7 one to counter it. I'm surprised that someone as learned as you would be so quick to challenge it, without further research. Have you looked into Compton?

I used Cox's testimony - what did you use?

[jerryd]

Compton was twice arrested as a suspect Jack.
I won't restate the blotchy face descriptions because I'm sure you know most of them and I'm sure you can read them at the beginning of the thread, but there are similarities to the description of Compton, whose face is described as florid. I don't recall anyone having blotchy's birth date, so your 36 year old comment seems cherry picked, as does your 5'5 description, as there is a 5'7 one to counter it. I'm surprised that someone as learned as you would be so quick to challenge it, without further research. Have you looked into Compton?

Hi Suspect Zero,

Do you have a report that states the suspect arrested twice by the name of George Compton is the same man as the PC by that name?

[SuspectZero]

But, didn't you write this?


Blotchy was about 36 years old, 5ft 5 inch tall, with sandy hair and a carroty moustache.

Where's the similarity?

Compton was twice arrested as a suspect Jack.
I won't restate the blotchy face descriptions because I'm sure you know most of them and I'm sure you can read them at the beginning of the thread, but there are similarities to the description of Compton, whose face is described as florid. I don't recall anyone having blotchy's birth date, so your 36 year old comment seems cherry picked, as does your 5'5 description, as there is a 5'7 one to counter it. I'm surprised that someone as learned as you would be so quick to challenge it, without further research. Have you looked into Compton?

[Wickerman]

Former PC George Compton.
Physical description in July 1888:

• 42 years old
• 5'7 3/4 inches tall.
• Dark hair
• Hazel eyes
• Florid complexion

He was arrested on suspicion of being the Ripper 2 times. Check him out.

But, didn't you write this?

Like Abby, I too think Blotchy should be looked at more seriously as the Ripper. Witnesses have provided his description several times just before or after a murder, as evidenced in this very thread. This man has a name, fits the the description of Blotchy,....

Blotchy was about 36 years old, 5ft 5 inch tall, with sandy hair and a carroty moustache.

Where's the similarity?

[SuspectZero]

Thanks suspect!

id never heard of him. but then again I'm no researcher. lol.

Can you please expound a little on him? or point me in the right direction?

Hi Abby,
Here's a little info on what I know about him:
George Compton (Warrant number 53393)
Born: approximately (Jul-Aug or Sept) 1845 in Sandhurst, Gloucestershire, England
Parents were Samuel & Louisa Compton (can't locate the marriage info)
Joined Metropolitan Police on the 5/12/1870 and assigned to K Division and served there until 6/30/1880.
Transferred to H (Whitechapel) Division on the 1/7/1880 and served there until he retired on the 6/30/1888. 18 years total service.
Interestingly, he seems to be confused as to the right place and date of his birth in his final paperwork, stating he was born in 1842 in Cheltenham.
His retirement started 7/1/1888 with a pension of £22.9.4. per year. At that time he was married to Faith Compton.
in the 1881 census he lived at 115 Old Church Rd Tower Hamlet – Mile End.
in 1888 he resided at 115 Finnis Street, Bethnal Green.
His family life is more interesting....

[Abby Normal]

Former PC George Compton.
Physical description in July 1888:

• 42 years old
• 5'7 3/4 inches tall.
• Dark hair
• Hazel eyes
• Florid complexion

He was arrested on suspicion of being the Ripper 2 times. Check him out.

Thanks suspect!

id never heard of him. but then again I'm no researcher. lol.

Can you please expound a little on him? or point me in the right direction?

[SuspectZero]

Former PC George Compton.
Physical description in July 1888:

• 42 years old
• 5'7 3/4 inches tall.
• Dark hair
• Hazel eyes
• Florid complexion

He was arrested on suspicion of being the Ripper 2 times. Check him out.

[Varqm]

Who?...

[SuspectZero]

I don’t think so. I know they looked for him and inquired at the bars but nothing.

Like Abby, I too think Blotchy should be looked at more seriously as the Ripper. Witnesses have provided his description several times just before or after a murder, as evidenced in this very thread. This man has a name, fits the the description of Blotchy, he knew the comings and goings of the police intimately, and he was arrested twice as a suspect in the murders, but was released promptly after being questioned. It's odd that no one here ever brings him up as a suspect. I'm sure the more experienced researchers here know who I'm referring to.

[Varqm]

Curious,was fake mustaches,like carroty in this instance,common or easy to get in 1888?

[RockySullivan]

I haven't seen it in an official file. Just these news accounts that have been posted before, by the way. i just noticed today these three accounts were very similar and dated within a day of each other. I'm usually a little behind the crowd on my observations, though.

I'll say just kidding of course. My favorite is the theory that Mary's killer hid in a tiny coal room underneath the wall. Outside the box

[jerryd]

Wow possible Jack the Ripper DNA in Blotchy man's hair with MJK's coagulated blood? Was this actually in the case files? Surprised nobody's pulled that out of an old trunk in the attack.

I haven't seen it in an official file. Just these news accounts that have been posted before, by the way. i just noticed today these three accounts were very similar and dated within a day of each other. I'm usually a little behind the crowd on my observations, though.

[RockySullivan]

In trying to reconcile the first two articles posted here, I wonder if the press mixed up Hutchinson's man with Cox's man. If so, it looks like it could be the same man with the blotchy face and carroty moustache. Also, if by chance, he is in fact THE blotchy man, he appears to be heading toward the west, possibly Battersea. Queen Victoria Street is down near the Fleet Street and Ludgate Hill area. All three of these clips seem to be speaking of the same man, to me anyways.

Evening News
London, U.K.
16 November 1888

At about ten o'clock this morning, a man answering every description to the particulars furnished to the police by G. Hutchinson, as seen by him on the night of the murder of the woman Kelly, attracted attention in Queen Victoria-street, Blackfriars. Finding himself being watched, he immediately hurried his footsteps, and without giving time for any action to be taken, entered the Underground Railway station near by, and escaped.

The Echo 17 Nov 1888

There is some news this morning, however, of the man "with the blotchy face and carroty moustache," He is averred to have been seen at a late hour, yesterday, in Battersea Park Road, at a period subsequent to that in which he is said to have been seen in Queen Victoria Street. The police were at once on the alert, but without any result.


Evening News
London, U.K.
16 November 1888

The police at Battersea are in search of a man who is stated to answer to the description of the man wanted for the murder of Mary Jane Kelly. He was seen under somewhat singular circumstances yesterday afternoon. He entered a coffee-house in that neighbourhood, and displayed some hair, which is stated to have been human, with congealed blood attached. No one thought to detain him, but information was subsequently given to the police. It is understood that he left the hair behind him.

Wow possible Jack the Ripper DNA in Blotchy man's hair with MJK's coagulated blood? Was this actually in the case files? Surprised nobody's pulled that out of an old trunk in the attack.