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Originally posted by The Good Michael View PostIf I open my mouth in the forest, can you hear me yawn?
Mike"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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Originally posted by John G View PostAre you seriously arguing that brain disease cannot affect cognition?
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Originally posted by Pierre View PostOf course it can, but in the case of such a severe brain problem, there would not have been sufficient cognition to commit the murders. And after reading about this problem, I also learned that it would have have a severe effect on the body.
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Originally posted by Pierre View PostOf course it can, but in the case of such a severe brain problem, there would not have been sufficient cognition to commit the murders. And after reading about this problem, I also learned that it would have have a severe effect on the body.
Once again we have the non disclosure of sources and details.
I am not suggesting this but this could all be simple invention, how are we meant to debate without knowledge?
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Come on Pierre, show that you are a genuine researche
Why not tell us if this illness is strutural , chemical or caused by a pathogen that at lEast means the debate is useful to a limited extent.
As it stands It is pointless and the reason why I have said little on this thread.
Steve
Ps . I hope you wife is getting better.
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Originally posted by Pierre View PostTo conclude. There is no source for a brain disease destroying the capability of thinking. There are some sources for grandiosity.
Regards, Pierre
That statement s entirely dependent on what you mean by thinking.
Brain diseases do serious effect the ability to think.
Tumours depending on location and size certainly can.
Likewise Deminta and Alzhimers and of course Human variants of CJD are truly insides on the mental processes of a person.
Disease caused by pathogens can equally be devistating.
Of course this just back the issue I raised in my last post.
Steve
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Originally posted by Pierre View PostOf course it can, but in the case of such a severe brain problem, there would not have been sufficient cognition to commit the murders. And after reading about this problem, I also learned that it would have have a severe effect on the body.
SO WHAT IF WHATEVER THIS "SEVERE BRAIN PROBLEM" WAS, IT HAD A SEVERE EFFECT ON HIS/HER BODY!!! THE TRAGEDY WAS IT DID NOT HAVE SUCH A SEVERE EFFECT BEFORE HE/SHE KILLED FIVE OR MORE PROSTITUES AND LEFT ONE IN SHREDS!!!
To me, however vicious it sounds to you Pierre, if it had such an effect one hopes his or her last days were spent in absolute agony. It would have been partial payback for what the killer deserved.
My apologies to the rest of this board.
JeffLast edited by Mayerling; 10-09-2016, 12:14 PM.
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How ironic. In the past on other threads you have talked about solving this case in order to get a monster off our backs. Now you seem to be heading towards making this monster human enough to possibly forgive.
I do absolutely not suggest any forgiving attitude. If you thought so that is the wrong interpretation of my perspective.
And I am very uncertain as to whether people wish to get the monster of their backs. It seems to me that they like the hunting ground and the monster they are hunting. Am I wrong?
SO WHAT IF WHATEVER THIS "SEVERE BRAIN PROBLEM" WAS, IT HAD A SEVERE EFFECT ON HIS/HER BODY!!! THE TRAGEDY WAS IT DID NOT HAVE SUCH A SEVERE EFFECT BEFORE HE/SHE KILLED FIVE OR MORE PROSTITUES AND LEFT ONE IN SHREDS!!!
To me, however vicious it sounds to you Pierre, if it had such an effect one hopes his or her last days were spent in absolute agony. It would have been partial payback for what the killer deserved.
My apologies to the rest of this board.
Jeff
I hate the killer. But let´s see if I can use this hate to get the last scrap of data we need.
Best wishes, PierreLast edited by Pierre; 10-09-2016, 12:31 PM.
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Originally posted by Elamarna View PostPierre
That statement s entirely dependent on what you mean by thinking.
Brain diseases do serious effect the ability to think.
Tumours depending on location and size certainly can.
Likewise Deminta and Alzhimers and of course Human variants of CJD are truly insides on the mental processes of a person.
Disease caused by pathogens can equally be devistating.
Of course this just back the issue I raised in my last post.
Steve
and thanks for sharing your medical knowledge with us.
We can forget the source for a severe brain problem now. This means that there are no such sources.
There are some sources for grandiosity, as I said. This is a personality issue and very problematic if one would like to connect it to some psychiatric diagnosis where grandiosity is one component.
We can not do this for such an old case.
But we do know that there were severe personal problems, there was hate, there were lies, there was fraud, there was manipulation, there was defense and there was grandiosity.
There are very, very good, reliable and valid sources for this. I promise you this, Steve.
It is indeed a very well established historical fact.
Best wishes, PierreLast edited by Pierre; 10-09-2016, 12:42 PM.
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Originally posted by PierreThe biological explanatory variable is in a source showing that there was a severe brain problem in this case.Originally posted by Pierre View PostWe can forget the source for a severe brain problem now. This means that there are no such sources.
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Originally posted by Pierre View PostHi Steve,
and thanks for sharing your medical knowledge with us.
We can forget the source for a severe brain problem now. This means that there are no such sources.
There are some sources for grandiosity, as I said. This is a personality issue and very problematic if one would like to connect it to some psychiatric diagnosis where grandiosity is one component.
We can not do this for such an old case.
But we do know that there were severe personal problems, there was hate, there were lies, there was fraud, there was manipulation, there was defense and there was grandiosity.
There are very, very good, reliable and valid sources for this. I promise you this, Steve.
It is indeed a very well established historical fact.
Best wishes, Pierre
I hope I'm wrong but I'm starting to get very suspicious about the rationale behind this thread.
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Originally posted by John G View PostWhat do you mean "we can forget the source for a severe brain problem." How do you know he didn't have a severe brain problem? How is it possible to make an accurate mental diagnosis in 2016 when no one from today has actually examined your suspect?
As I write: there are no sources. This means there are no sources available.
Therefore there is no such indication.
Naturally, a mental problem is possible - but I can only say what is in the sources, and the sources must exist. I can not imagine sources or guess.
And your second point was what I said also: we can not apply new tools - like DSM-5 - on this old case.
Regards, Pierre
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Originally posted by Pierre View PostHi John,
As I write: there are no sources. This means there are no sources available.
Therefore there is no such indication.
Naturally, a mental problem is possible - but I can only say what is in the sources, and the sources must exist. I can not imagine sources or guess.
And your second point was what I said also: we can not apply new tools - like DSM-5 - on this old case.
Regards, Pierre
Your last paragraph I would completely agree with. In fact, that's the exact point I was trying to make in Post 201.
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