The records from Stone Asylum for Joseph Fleming - transcription

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  • Cogidubnus
    Assistant Commissioner
    • Feb 2012
    • 3266

    #226
    Ah well, there goes a fanciful theory! The street coconut shy must've died out by the 20s and 30s when my mother was there!

    Thanks Debs

    Dave

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    • DVV
      Suspended
      • Apr 2008
      • 6014

      #227
      Great find

      Fleming playing coconut shy in Mile End. You can also hear Mary ("You're fantastic !").

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      • Cogidubnus
        Assistant Commissioner
        • Feb 2012
        • 3266

        #228
        When is a hook not a hook?

        Thanks for your input into the hook question. I think we kind of thought between us that Flemming had some sort of 'Longshoreman's hook' in his possessions, a tool of his trade most likely. Thanks for the confirmation of this, I'm taking it that a 'bill hook' was something similar?as I've never heard the term before.
        Sorry...I'm afraid a bill hook is very different from a longshoremans hook...google and see!

        I suspect Jack would love a weapon like this

        Best wishes

        Dave

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        • Debra A
          Assistant Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 3504

          #229
          Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
          Sorry...I'm afraid a bill hook is very different from a longshoremans hook...google and see!

          I suspect Jack would love a weapon like this

          Best wishes

          Dave
          Oh, I see.
          Wouldn't they have put billhook in the inventory though, seeing as plain old 'hook' wouldn't begin to decribe it as it's definitely more like a knife and a Longshoreman's hook looks just like a hook and could be described as such. And dockers definitely used those as thatched roof cutters and the like did?
          You're not going to tell us your old grandad was Joe Fleming are you?

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          • Cogidubnus
            Assistant Commissioner
            • Feb 2012
            • 3266

            #230
            Them 'ooks

            I think they used them for breaking up bales and stuff like that...he always said it was a bill'ook that got him...mind you, how sober he was at the time god only knows... gertcha.... slash... lummy... slash... gorblimey, where'd they go?

            Cheers
            Dave

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            • Lechmere
              Inactive
              • Oct 2010
              • 3450

              #231
              Stone Asylum with Fleming's quarters pictured in the background
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              • Lechmere
                Inactive
                • Oct 2010
                • 3450

                #232
                It looks from the outside like a stately home.
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                • Lechmere
                  Inactive
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 3450

                  #233
                  It looks like some outsized doors have been scaled down to normal size...
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                  • Lechmere
                    Inactive
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 3450

                    #234
                    City of London crest
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                    • DVV
                      Suspended
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 6014

                      #235
                      Thanks, Lechmere.
                      It's Fleming's watch below the bell.

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                      • The Good Michael
                        Assistant Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3773

                        #236
                        I see they removed the tall door from Fleming's room and added a more moderate one.

                        Mike
                        huh?

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                        • lynn cates
                          Commisioner
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 13841

                          #237
                          lovely

                          Hello Ed. Lovely work. Thanks for sharing.

                          Cheers.
                          LC

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                          • DVV
                            Suspended
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 6014

                            #238
                            Too bad we can't see the top of the roof.
                            The very place where he left his briefs to dry.

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                            • Lechmere
                              Inactive
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 3450

                              #239
                              Fleming would have been able to see over the roof though.
                              I will take a look at Claybury soon.

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                              • DVV
                                Suspended
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 6014

                                #240
                                Thanks for the pics, Lechmere.
                                Don't waste too much time with your camera, though.
                                You've got a Flanagan to track down.

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