Druitt's 30 August Cricket Match

[jmenges]

Turning your attention to the discovery posted here.

https://www.jtrforums.com/forum/persons-of-interest-or-actual-suspects/m-j-druitt/588052-proof-of-innocence

JM

[The Baron]

Great research

That means Druitt was in Dorset

At the time of Tabram murder
At the time of Nichols murder
At the time of Chapman murder
And at the time of Mckenzie murder, although dead


Only faith can save Druitt as a suspect.



The Baron

[Darryl Kenyon]

I am not a fan of Monty but the cricket match was so low scoring my guess is that the match would have finished by mid afternoon . I don't think it is a cast iron alibi but it does cast serious doubt on Druitt.
Brilliant research though
Regards Darryl

[Abby Normal]

as i said in the other thread murderers and serial killers have been known to travel far distances to make a kill and travel back. for one it gives them an alibi. He has an office in London too.
its a blow, for sure, but knockout? no way.
Ostrog in a french jail is a KO, this is not. at all.

[NotBlamedForNothing]

Looks like Druitt was caught ... on a sticky wicket

[Ms Diddles]

Excellent find!

Really interesting stuff!

I agree it's a point against, but not a definitive knock-out blow.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I think that it’s fairly easy to see why someone could lose interest in discussing this subject as I have; either on specific events or on the subject as a whole and this issue provides an absolutely perfect example of why those reasons should occur. It’s the curse of suspects. We tend to descend to ‘my suspect is better than your suspect’ without simply discussing and assessing calmly and it’s often the case that some either go to any lengths to defend a suspect or they jump on anything to try and eliminate a suspect that they see as an obstacle to the acceptance of their own. So any snippet of information is exaggerated and built on with ever more far fetched inferences to try and manufacture some kind of killer blow where none exists as yet. We don’t know who the ripper was despite our varying interpretations. So……the cricket story (and a thumbs up to Joanna for bring the information to our attention.)

We have Druitt shown to have been playing cricket on the 30th August and the 1st September.

Firstly, for those that have no interest in or knowledge of cricket this was a match where a total of 87 runs were made. As a comparison, but not an exact one of course, teams today can score between 200 and 300 runs in 1½ hours. So I’d estimate 3 hours at the most but possible 2½ or even a bit less. It’s by no means impossible or even unlikely that this match could have been over in 2 hours. This was not a long game so we should abandon any thoughts about this being an all day game. It wasn’t.

What time did the game begin? This information isn’t available to us as we speak but a reasonable suggestion would be around 11am although I’ve played many club cricket matches that begun at 10am. So we just don’t know but the game could have been done and dusted by 1.00 or just after (or even before)

So Druitt (if guilty of course) could have been in London by early evening (catching the earlier train) or late evening (catching the later train.) So there can be absolutely no doubt at all that Druitt could have returned to London with hours to spare before Polly Nichols was killed. This is just a fact.

Now of course if it could be shown that he stayed at the family home overnight then it would indeed be game over and maybe that information is out there somewhere but at this point in time it isn’t so we can’t consider or assume it.

Now, I don’t have access to the train timetables but if Druitt (if guilty) killed Nichols at around 3.40am he had all day on the 31st to catch a train back south. Even allowing for a decent nights sleep he would still have had more than ample time to get back in time to play the second game.

Now we might as why would he do such a thing but is it really so strange? Maybe he came back for some kind of meeting and maybe it was cancelled? Or maybe he didn’t intend to play in the second game but changed his mind. And as Abby has pointed out, if he was the killer then he was a serial killer and they aren’t exactly models of reasoned behaviour.

So put quite simply, and by just looking at the known facts without bias or hysterics, we can see quite clearly that this new information doesn’t eliminate Druitt. It doesn’t even come remotely close to eliminating Druitt. Such eliminating evidence might exist and might one day surface but as yet no. No reasonable person can view and assess this information and construe it as an elimination of Druitt.

Will these facts be accepted by all? Of course they won’t. Why let facts spoil a good old agenda.

[Darryl Kenyon]

Regarding the times [ and how long the match would have taken ], Cricket matches traditionally start at 11 am. I am not sure if this applied in 1888, but if so lunch is normally 1 pm , but not set in stone. So with the match being so low scoring, after the first team was bowled out , they may have called an early lunch.
With that in mind, just a guess but I would estimate the match finished between 2 and 3 pm .

Regards Darryl

[Harry D]

https://www.jtrforums.com/forum/pers...f-of-innocence

Annoying to keep track of who's posting when everyone's virtue-signalling the Ukrainian flag...

[MrBarnett]

Annoying to keep track of who's posting when everyone's virtue-signalling the Ukrainian flag...

Try looking at the names, I find that quite useful.

[Harry D]

Try looking at the names, I find that quite useful.

I said it was annoying, not impossible. Seeing someone's avatar in your peripheral vision makes it easier to follow the flow of the conversation.

[erobitha]

Mathematically, Druitt still hangs in there, but by the merest of small margins. As Herlock said, just one piece of evidence to suggest he stayed at the family home or if there were major rail works on those days, then it will be exoneration for MJD.

[MrBarnett]

I said it was annoying, not impossible. Seeing someone's avatar in your peripheral vision makes it easier to follow the flow of the conversation.

People change their avatars quite often. That must be very confusing for you.

Out of curiosity, what are you ‘signalling’ with your avatar?

[Harry D]

People change their avatars quite often.

Not generally. And I only need to see that avatar once to know who's who in the thread. But for some reason everyone needs to broadcast what a good person they are with pointless internet gestures.

[jmenges]

This is not the thread to discuss what some JtRForums members choose to have as their avatars and how that triggers you. Please stay on topic.

JM