Druitt's 30 August Cricket Match

[JeffHamm]

'Dead in the water' was actually meant as a rather poor taste pun - Druitt, dead in the water. I simply meant that while the very real possibility exists that the Dorset cricket matches were played by Mel not Monty, and no one can prove otherwise, the cricket evidence has a huge question mark next to it. I wonder if any of these clubs have archives that might contain the answer?

Ah, sorry, I didn't make that connection; clever and dark. But yes, the article posted a while back tells us that we have to re-examine the cricket evidence as we have evidence to show it is now questionable whether or not it refers to Monty. And if it doesn't, it means we're back to square one and the window of opportunity is thrown wide open again.

- Jeff

[GBinOz]

I can't really see the relevance of the finishing time of the cricket match. I would have imagined that the post match festivities would have been a substantial part of the attraction. These teams were composed almost entirely of gentlemen from the upper classes who could afford to linger in the area and partake of the social graces involving locally brewed beverages, fine country food and camaraderie. Looking at the scorecards there were very few of the working class in the teams so the almost all of the players could afford to stay in local accommodation. Druitt even had family living locally.

While I am not entirely persuaded as to Druitt's candidacy for JtR, I don't believe he can be discounted in that regard. There are many aspects of his case that I find suspicious, to the point where some may apply to me the dreaded label of conspiracist.

Cheers, George

[GUT]

Why does everyone assume that if he returned to London (if it was Monte and not the other MJD) it was with the intention of killing? He had plenty of other reasons to need to return to London, something to do with School, Blackheath Club, his legal Work, and IF he was the killer the frustration of a game cut short, or needing to rush back to the city and miss social time in Dorset, could even be a trigger.

[MrBarnett]

Why does everyone assume that if he returned to London (if it was Monte and not the other MJD) it was with the intention of killing? He had plenty of other reasons to need to return to London, something to do with School, Blackheath Club, his legal Work, and IF he was the killer the frustration of a game cut short, or needing to rush back to the city and miss social time in Dorset, could even be a trigger.

Hi GUT,

That’s a very interesting idea. It seems he may also have missed out on a day’s cricket against the MCC - on the 7th August.

[GUT]

Hi GUT,

That’s a very interesting idea. It seems he may also have missed out on a day’s cricket against the MCC - on the 7th August.

Seems to me there was a trigger, also seems his sport was almost the “be all and end all” of his life. I remember getting highly agitated when a game of league would be cancelled, though that was as a teen not in my 30s.

[MrBarnett]

Seems to me there was a trigger, also seems his sport was almost the “be all and end all” of his life. I remember getting highly agitated when a game of league would be cancelled, though that was as a teen not in my 30s.

It’s looking increasingly like there is no cricket alibi for Tabram.

[mpriestnall]

2 down. 1 to go.

[GUT]

2 down. 1 to go.

Not sure what you mean????

[mpriestnall]

Not sure what you mean????

Sorry, Gut. Light-hearted comment on Mac's Memo's Famous Three.

[Abby Normal]

Sorry, Gut. Light-hearted comment on Mac's Memo's Famous Three.

i beleive what gary meant is that druitt is still in the frame for tabrams murder, and as far as I can tell from the recent cricket discussions, chapmans and nichols also. so still just one down (ostrog) im afraid.

[Herlock Sholmes]

i beleive what gary meant is that druitt is still in the frame for tabrams murder, and as far as I can tell from the recent cricket discussions, chapmans and nichols also. so still just one down (ostrog) im afraid.

It’s certainly interesting Abby and it illustrates how research shows that we shouldn’t take anything for granted. We now know 2 things for certain. That as yet we have no idea of the start or finish times of the August 30th cricket match so as it stands we cannot eliminate Druitt on this point even though some were beginning their premature celebrations. Information might still surface to change this though of course. And that we’ve always taken Leighton at face value and eliminated Druitt for Tabram’s murder (whether it was a ripper murder or not) on the basis of a cricket game which never took place. So there’s no alibi for Tabram. Have you noticed the silence on this point Abby?

Its also interesting to note that Druitt’s own team Blackheath played a game on the 6th of August. Roger posted the scorecard and Druitt didn’t play.

[FISHY1118]

It’s certainly interesting Abby and it illustrates how research shows that we shouldn’t take anything for granted. We now know 2 things for certain. That as yet we have no idea of the start or finish times of the August 30th cricket match so as it stands we cannot eliminate Druitt on this point even though some were beginning their premature celebrations. Information might still surface to change this though of course. And that we’ve always taken Leighton at face value and eliminated Druitt for Tabram’s murder (whether it was a ripper murder or not) on the basis of a cricket game which never took place. So there’s no alibi for Tabram. Have you noticed the silence on this point Abby?

Its also interesting to note that Druitt’s own team Blackheath played a game on the 6th of August. Roger posted the scorecard and Druitt didn’t play.

He was still in Bournmouth

[GUT]

It’s certainly interesting Abby and it illustrates how research shows that we shouldn’t take anything for granted. We now know 2 things for certain. That as yet we have no idea of the start or finish times of the August 30th cricket match so as it stands we cannot eliminate Druitt on this point even though some were beginning their premature celebrations. Information might still surface to change this though of course. And that we’ve always taken Leighton at face value and eliminated Druitt for Tabram’s murder (whether it was a ripper murder or not) on the basis of a cricket game which never took place. So there’s no alibi for Tabram. Have you noticed the silence on this point Abby?

Its also interesting to note that Druitt’s own team Blackheath played a game on the 6th of August. Roger posted the scorecard and Druitt didn’t play.

I wonder how many murders coincide with games getting cut way short or abandoned???

[Herlock Sholmes]

He was still in Bournmouth

What evidence to you base that positive statement on?

[Herlock Sholmes]

I wonder how many murders coincide with games getting cut way short or abandoned???

I wonder GUT? You made the point earlier that I also raised over on JTR Forums in that if Druitt returned to London (and of course we cant assume it, just the fact that it was possible given the evidence so far) then it didn’t have to mean that he returned purely to kill. He could have returned for any kind of meeting or for another unknown reason. The other assumption that’s difficult to understand is the one that has a serial killer thinking and behaving as we would. How could any of us expect that?