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  • Fiver
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    Originally posted by Al Bundy's Eyes View Post

    Even the staunchest of Lechmereians stop short of calling him a cannibal...
    I'm waiting for the day they sub him in for Netley in the Royal Conspiracy on the grounds he named a son Albert Edward. It's only slightly more daft than the Ley Lines Theory.

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by Al Bundy's Eyes View Post

    Even the staunchest of Lechmereians stop short of calling him a cannibal...
    Yet.

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Exactly. I’m just imagining a hypothetical situation maybe 5 years after the murders where a cold case investigation is going on. Can anyone imagine the police hearing about - 1) a man living locally, criminal background, violent, link to prostitutes, murdered a woman (yes his wife but still a woman) performed mutilations with a knife and then left London 2 months after the murder that the majority feel was the final one.
    And 2) man with no record of violence or criminality, appeared to live a respectable life, worked and supported his family, found a body on his route to work and 20 minutes before clocking on time, could have fled but stood waiting for a stranger to arrive, went with that stranger to talk to a Constable, showed up at the inquest.

    Apparently if Chief Inspector Baron and certain others were in charge they would apparently be saying “well this violent murderer has to be the worst suspect I’ve ever heard of..but the guy who had never done anything wrong and behaved normally…..he’s obviously your man!”

    Thats apparently how it works. No one knows who the killer was but Bury is several streets, a long hop bus journey, a considerable train ride and a sizeable walk ahead of Cross in terms of being a suspect. It’s like comparing Audley Harrison with Mike Tyson. Or my mate Phil (top break 23) with Ronnie O’Sullivan.

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  • John Wheat
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    I think evidence of Cannibalism would rule out pretty much every Ripper suspect.

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  • Al Bundy's Eyes
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
    What I object to is the constant use of double standards evident in arguments:

    If cannibalism was Jack the Ripper's motive, and there is a good chance that it is, then Bury is out, completely​“


    I call out to every single poster on this site. Can any poster point to one solitary hint or suggestion that Kosminski was a cannibal?

    We all know that the answer to that is a resounding ‘no.’

    Therefore, Baron should be quite happy to state:

    “If cannibalism was Jack the Ripper’s motive, and there is a good chance that it is, then Kosminski is out, completely.”

    In the interest of fair-mindedness of course.
    Even the staunchest of Lechmereians stop short of calling him a cannibal...

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    What I object to is the constant use of double standards evident in arguments:

    If cannibalism was Jack the Ripper's motive, and there is a good chance that it is, then Bury is out, completely​“


    I call out to every single poster on this site. Can any poster point to one solitary hint or suggestion that Kosminski was a cannibal?

    We all know that the answer to that is a resounding ‘no.’

    Therefore, Baron should be quite happy to state:

    “If cannibalism was Jack the Ripper’s motive, and there is a good chance that it is, then Kosminski is out, completely.”

    In the interest of fair-mindedness of course.

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  • Fiver
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    Originally posted by Lewis C View Post

    The notion that The Ripper's motive was that he liked to damage the female body is a very common one. I suspect that it predates Fisherman by 100 years.
    Exactly. The idea wasn't created by Fisherman, it's been the majority view from the moment it was first theorized that the deaths were a result of a serial killer. The question is the emotion behind the mutilations - lust, anger, disgust, something else?

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  • John Wheat
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post


    If you find yourself wondering where you did get that motive from, then you don't have to go too far, it is the one Fisherman, the defender of the torso-ripper himself, you are now in a good company.



    The Baron
    Lewis C has said it better than I could.

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  • Lewis C
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post


    If you find yourself wondering where you did get that motive from, then you don't have to go too far, it is the one Fisherman, the defender of the torso-ripper himself, you are now in a good company.



    The Baron
    The notion that The Ripper's motive was that he liked to damage the female body is a very common one. I suspect that it predates Fisherman by 100 years.

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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

    I think it likely the Ripper's motive was the ripping itself. Causing damage to the female body. I think the removal of organs was part of that.

    If you find yourself wondering where you did get that motive from, then you don't have to go too far, it is the one Fisherman, the defender of the torso-ripper himself, you are now in a good company.



    The Baron

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  • John Wheat
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post



    Great, so let's hear you man, tell us, inform us, remove this mist that blinds our eyes

    What was the Ripper's motive?!

    Why did he harvest victim's organs?

    To smell them? To sell them?



    The Baron
    I think it likely the Ripper's motive was the ripping itself. Causing damage to the female body. I think the removal of organs was part of that.

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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

    I doubt cannibalism was the Ripper's motive though.


    Great, so let's hear you man, tell us, inform us, remove this mist that blinds our eyes

    What was the Ripper's motive?!

    Why did he harvest victim's organs?

    To smell them? To sell them?



    The Baron

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  • John Wheat
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    Originally posted by GBinOz View Post

    While it is true that no one knows who wrote the "From Hell" letter, even if it was written by Bury, it would not upgrade him as a suspect.
    Hi George

    I never said Bury writing the From Hell letter would upgrade his status as a suspect. I just said it wouldnt downgrade him as a suspect.

    Cheers John

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  • John Wheat
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    If cannibalism was Jack the Ripper's motive, and there is a good chance that it is, then Bury is out, completely.


    Unless that after killing his wife, Bury noticed he was not that hungry..

    Or maybe Ellen was not so appetizing.. ?!


    -- "We just don't know"


    The Baron
    I doubt cannibalism was the Ripper's motive though.

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  • The Baron
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    If cannibalism was Jack the Ripper's motive, and there is a good chance that it is, then Bury is out, completely.


    Unless that after killing his wife, Bury noticed he was not that hungry..

    Or maybe Ellen was not so appetizing.. ?!


    -- "We just don't know"


    The Baron

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