Evidence towards Joseph Barnett?

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  • mpriestnall
    Inspector
    • Apr 2019
    • 1192

    #31
    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
    Although Barnett always appears reasonably high in any list of suspects I’ve personally never seen any real reason to suspect him. It’s certainly been a while since I’ve read Paley though (aren't there more than 2 authors promoting him btw?) If we consider him in the light of being a suspect it’s not the case that we would have to tie ourselves down to the ‘scare Kelly off the streets motive.’ Anyone could have underlying issues of some kind and I’ve never placed much weight on the ‘scare’ motive.

    I often complain that there are far too many suspect books where the author simply selects somebody around at the time and then built a ‘case’ around them (Endacott the most recent of them) and I’m certain that others agree. If we bought every new book we would all be on a bread, cheese and water diet. In reality isn’t Barnett the first of these type of suspects? Can we blame Paley for starting a trend?
    I thought Macnaghten started the trend. I'm joking btw!
    Sapere Aude

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    • Herlock Sholmes
      Commissioner
      • May 2017
      • 21988

      #32
      Originally posted by mpriestnall View Post

      I thought Macnaghten started the trend. I'm joking btw!
      Many would agree with you Martyn

      Have I spelt your name correctly?

      Regards

      Herlock Sholmes

      ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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      • mpriestnall
        Inspector
        • Apr 2019
        • 1192

        #33
        Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

        Many would agree with you Martyn

        Have I spelt your name correctly?
        Yes it's "Martyn" thank you but I'm use to "Martin". Anything but "Marty"(!) is fine.

        My take is that Druitt has a genuine place in the case but not as JTR. I believe he was "suicided". I believed he knew the identities of JTR (and Astrakhan). I'm aware of what I call "information paths" between Druitt and my candidates for JTR/Astrakhan. By information paths I just mean people Druitt must have known who very like would have known my two candidates and some of whom may have known about about a certain scandal relating to Astrakhan.

        BTW My laptop keyboard has just stopped typing some letters. Am using another keyboard (via usb) otherwise my response would look like the typing equivalent of Norman Collier!

        Sapere Aude

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        • Dickere
          Detective
          • May 2021
          • 291

          #34
          Originally posted by mpriestnall View Post

          Yes it's "Martyn" thank you but I'm use to "Martin". Anything but "Marty"(!) is fine.

          My take is that Druitt has a genuine place in the case but not as JTR. I believe he was "suicided". I believed he knew the identities of JTR (and Astrakhan). I'm aware of what I call "information paths" between Druitt and my candidates for JTR/Astrakhan. By information paths I just mean people Druitt must have known who very like would have known my two candidates and some of whom may have known about about a certain scandal relating to Astrakhan.

          BTW My laptop keyboard has just stopped typing some letters. Am using another keyboard (via usb) otherwise my response would look like the typing equivalent of Norman Collier!
          Thanks Marti !

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          • Herlock Sholmes
            Commissioner
            • May 2017
            • 21988

            #35
            Originally posted by mpriestnall View Post

            Yes it's "Martyn" thank you but I'm use to "Martin". Anything but "Marty"(!) is fine.

            My take is that Druitt has a genuine place in the case but not as JTR. I believe he was "suicided". I believed he knew the identities of JTR (and Astrakhan). I'm aware of what I call "information paths" between Druitt and my candidates for JTR/Astrakhan. By information paths I just mean people Druitt must have known who very like would have known my two candidates and some of whom may have known about about a certain scandal relating to Astrakhan.

            BTW My laptop keyboard has just stopped typing some letters. Am using another keyboard (via usb) otherwise my response would look like the typing equivalent of Norman Collier!
            Something was telling me that it was Martyn but when I typed it I started to doubt myself.
            Regards

            Herlock Sholmes

            ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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            • mpriestnall
              Inspector
              • Apr 2019
              • 1192

              #36
              Originally posted by Dickere View Post

              Thanks Marti !
              Very good. You got me!
              Sapere Aude

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              • FriedKidne
                Cadet
                • Jul 2021
                • 24

                #37
                My MJK suspect is John McCarthy, but that is based on coincidences not any hard evidence.

                But I do not believe he was involved in any others.

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                • sidbolt123
                  Cadet
                  • Aug 2022
                  • 11

                  #38
                  Originally posted by FriedKidne View Post
                  My MJK suspect is John McCarthy, but that is based on coincidences not any hard evidence.

                  But I do not believe he was involved in any others.
                  Is there a thread for John McCarthy?

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                  • DJA
                    *
                    • May 2015
                    • 4700

                    #39
                    Nobody is game to say no

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                    • Busy Beaver
                      Detective
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 267

                      #40
                      was Barnett or any other suspect at the time put in front or under the noses of Schawarz, Lawende or PC William Smith (Stride) who may have got a view of the possible Ripper?

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                      • Abby Normal
                        Commissioner
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 11923

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Busy Beaver View Post
                        was Barnett or any other suspect at the time put in front or under the noses of Schawarz, Lawende or PC William Smith (Stride) who may have got a view of the possible Ripper?
                        koz and sadler were apparently for lawende
                        "Is all that we see or seem
                        but a dream within a dream?"

                        -Edgar Allan Poe


                        "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                        quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                        -Frederick G. Abberline

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                        • Lewis C
                          Inspector
                          • Dec 2022
                          • 1148

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

                          koz and sadler were apparently for lawende
                          If memory serves me, Grainger was too.

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                          • GBinOz
                            Assistant Commissioner
                            • Jun 2021
                            • 3015

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Lewis C View Post

                            If memory serves me, Grainger was too.
                            Difference being Lawende identified Grainger as the person he saw near Mitre Square that night. Apparently one researcher has a photo of Grainger which is said to closely resemble Druitt.

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                            • PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1
                              Inactive
                              • Sep 2022
                              • 3067

                              #44
                              Originally posted by GBinOz View Post

                              Difference being Lawende identified Grainger as the person he saw near Mitre Square that night. Apparently one researcher has a photo of Grainger which is said to closely resemble Druitt.

                              Why would Lawende have identified Grainger, who, like Druitt, had a dark moustache, as a man he had described as having a fair moustache?

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                              • Abby Normal
                                Commissioner
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 11923

                                #45
                                some times I wonder if its someones goal to be the latest post on EVERY thread on CB. good grief dude take a break, maybe go outside get some fresh air or something.
                                "Is all that we see or seem
                                but a dream within a dream?"

                                -Edgar Allan Poe


                                "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                                quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                                -Frederick G. Abberline

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