The Goulston Street Juwes

[Mark J D]

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You're pitching it too high, mate. For this place, clearly, you have to go lower...

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[jerryd]

I do not.

What I am getting at is that it seems that in neither case was there any evidence that the graffiti existed prior to the time that the apron or body was found.

Ok. You started out your post with this statement: "I am sure the GSG was written by the murderer because..."

Then you included the "Lipski" chalking in Pinchin Street. How does that relate to your thinking the murderer of Eddowes wrote the GSG?

[DJA]

You're pitching it too high, mate. For this place, clearly, you have to go lower..

M.

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[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Ok. You started out your post with this statement: "I am sure the GSG was written by the murderer because..."

Then you included the "Lipski" chalking in Pinchin Street. How does that relate to your thinking the murderer of Eddowes wrote the GSG?

Anti-Jewish graffiti appearing in proximity to a body or bloody clothing from a body, about the same time as the body or apron were deposited there.

[jerryd]

Anti-Jewish graffiti appearing in proximity to a body or bloody clothing from a body, about the same time as the body or apron were deposited there.

I get that, and agree. So, do you feel person responsible for depositing the Pinchin torso wrote "Lipski" on the paling nearby? There was also writing in chalk found near to the Pinchin torso, IIRC in Frederick Street, that stated "John Cleary is a fool"

[Darryl Kenyon]

Most of the words in the GSG were Germanic and would have been familiar to a German:

The = der
Juwes = Juden
men = Männer / Menschen
that = das
will = will
not = nicht
thing = ding


The message actually makes more sense if it were written by a German than an Englishman.

Pardon ?? I thought it was written in English not German . How does it make sense that it was more likely to be written by a German ?

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Pardon ?? I thought it was written in English not German . How does it make sense that it was more likely to be written by a German ?

The murderer's choice of words look to me more like those of a German than of an Englishman.

[Abby Normal]

The murderer's choice of words look to me more like those of a German than of an Englishman.

what!?!? that makes no sense.

[Abby Normal]

I get that, and agree. So, do you feel person responsible for depositing the Pinchin torso wrote "Lipski" on the paling nearby? There was also writing in chalk found near to the Pinchin torso, IIRC in Frederick Street, that stated "John Cleary is a fool"

again Jerry your attention to detail, knowledge of the cases and knowing the right questions to ask is bar none. to me disparaging jewish grafitti found at both sites links them to the same killer.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

I get that, and agree. So, do you feel person responsible for depositing the Pinchin torso wrote "Lipski" on the paling nearby? There was also writing in chalk found near to the Pinchin torso, IIRC in Frederick Street, that stated "John Cleary is a fool"

People who disagree that the murderer wrote the GSG argue that it was already there,

Halse said it looked fresh.

It appears that no-one had seen it prior to Eddowes' murder.

Similarly, no-one apparently had seen the Pinchin Street Graffito prior to the finding of the torso there.

My point is that the evidence is that the graffiti were not already there.

[Trevor Marriott]

Why would anyone write a message accusing jurors without mentioning the case on which they deliberated?

If the target of the message was jurors, why write it at the entrance of a building occupied by Jews rather than jurors?

Why do people write graffiti per see?

The addresses of jurors are not disclosed in a court

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[DJA]

Why do people write graffiti per see?

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Doesn't sound very lucrative.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Why do people write graffiti per see?

The addresses of jurors are not disclosed in a court

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Would it not make more sense for someone disgruntled about a court's verdict to leave graffiti on or near the court building?

[Darryl Kenyon]

The murderer's choice of words look to me more like those of a German than of an Englishman.

Except he wrote - The Juwes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing [ if indeed that was the exact wording ] . Not - Die Juden sind die Männer, denen man nichts vorwerfen kann

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Except he wrote - The Juwes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing [ if indeed that was the exact wording ] . Not - Die Juden sind die Männer, denen man nichts vorwerfen kann

Plenty of posters here have suggested that the writer of the GSG was a Jewish immigrant, but I did not notice any objection from you on the ground that the GSG was written in English rather than Yiddish.