The broken window

[DJA]

While we are on the subject of the broken window,bloodhounds and Warren....

Warren served in southern Africa.In fact Warrenton was named after him,diamonds being discovered there in 1888.

The Christian Afrikaans had relied on Statenbifbel until 1878.

Being a Dutch translation,Jews was probably spelled Juwes,although Joden is the norm.

[DJA]

Could your suspect have worked on the tunnel under whitehall?

http://jtrforums.com/showthread.php?p=271758

https://books.google.com/books?id=bZ...IVhns-Ch1YbQdH

Dunno.

That jtrforums contains one of the funniest discussions on the net.

Two well known Ripperologists discussing the guy who was actually Jack the Ripper.

They know something's rotten in Denmark (cheese joke ),however they haven't done their research. Fail!

Bit like finding a Frank Cater.....but different.

Unsure what this has to do with two broken window panes.

[RockySullivan]

You are confusing Frank Cater with Frank Carter.

Could your suspect have worked on the tunnel under whitehall?

http://jtrforums.com/showthread.php?p=271758

https://books.google.com/books?id=bZ9bAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=royal+engineer+whitehall+tunnel&source=bl&ots=DPG-eXX3PI&sig=bIbypdA4xHzvnKWWIeN1fgQAuD0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDAQ6AEwBGoVChMIufKEhf_UyAIVhns-Ch1YbQdH

[DJA]

^Carter was a cheese monger. Maybe she'd had picked his card up from a customer and fancied a slice of brie.

You are confusing Frank Cater with Frank Carter.

[DJA]

Who cut the cheese?

He musta cut a lot to get those broad shoulders.

[RockySullivan]

^Carter was a cheese monger. Maybe Kate had picked his card up from a customer and fancied a slice of brie.

Who cut the cheese?

[Rosella]

^Carter was a cheese monger. Maybe she'd had picked his card up from a customer and fancied a slice of brie.

[RockySullivan]

I'm implying that he was BS man.

1881 census found him at The Carpenters Hall.
Think his parents were the caretakers.

Meh! Maybe she was really out cheese shopping.....

Right well I'm not sure what indicates he was BS man...but a connection between the Royal Engineers and the torso dumpsites would be interesting investigate i wonder if Jerry D has looked into this

[DJA]

Why would eddowes have the card of Royal Engineer..I'm finding conflicting reports...did 305 bethnal green actually exist?

I'm implying that he was BS man.

1881 census found him at The Carpenters Hall.
Think his parents were the caretakers.

Meh! Maybe she was really out cheese shopping.....

[DJA]

Kate Eddowes reward for naming Jack wouldn't have been non-existent. The philanthropist Samuel Montagu offered a reward of £100 after Annie Chapman was killed. He was MP for Tower Hamlets. A row occurred with the Home Office over the offering of this and rewards in general, but Montagu said he was honour bound to stand by it. £100 doesn't seem much today but it would have been a fortune to Kate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Montagu,_1st_Baron_Swaythling

My understanding is that the offer was unacceptable.

Henry Matthews seemed intent on not catching our Jack.

[Wickerman]

It was a spring latch Jon, one that was engaged when "off". The latch needed to be set to be in effect.

Indeed it was Michael, and described as such in the press.

I have this theory about the broken window...because I believe in actuality there were three holes in the 2 sets of windows, one one the panes to the far left, one high on the right side, and one down by the lower right hand corner..the one that it is alleged Barnett used when they left the latch engaged and went out.

Heres my theory...I think they intentionally broke the one that Barnett used because they did indeed lose their key and didnt want to leave the room unlocked when they went out. It seems to convenient for it to have been the one that was accidentally broken during a row. I believe the broken window that occurred in a row was one of the 2 higher breaks.

Cheers

I agree the broken window is conveniently placed to make reaching the lock easier. The cause, a drunken row, is very likely an excuse.
However, there always has been a disagreement as to whether two or three panes were broken when viewing the photo.

[RockySullivan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Engineers

Some Ripperologists reckon he was a grocer or sumfin'.

The royal engineers were also responsible for reporting on the railways correct? What about the bridges and sewer tunnels along the thames?
Why would eddowes have the card of Royal Engineer..I'm finding conflicting reports...did 305 bethnal green actually exist?

[Wickerman]

Hello Jon,

I don't believe Cox followed Mary and Blotchy down the alleyway did she? In which case..she wouldn't have seen how they entered the room? I could be mistaken?


Phil

Hi Phil.

Cox claimed in court:

"She went up the Court a few steps in front of me."

and then..

"I saw them go into her room. I said “Good night Mary”, and the man banged the door."

[DJA]

I'm not familiar with Carter...tunneling...like the tunnel at the whitechapel building?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Engineers

Some Ripperologists reckon he was a grocer or sumfin'.

[RockySullivan]

Reckon our Jack was well known to his victims and some police.

Likewise,McCarthy to the police.

Have a good look at the CV5's addresses prior to their deaths.

Nichols moves next door to Kate.

Kate goes hopping.

Chapman,several doors from Mary Kelly dies.

Kate returns looking for a non existent reward.

Liz moves from Dorset Street to Flower and Dean,several doors from Kate.

Liz leaves for the night about the same time Kate is arrested.....

Kate is found with a card for a guy named Carter.

Chap with the same name is a Royal Engineer.
Think tunneling and broad shoulders.

Warren,an ex Royal Engineer,shows interest in Packer's description of events.
Packer changes his times and is discredited.

I'm not familiar with Carter...tunneling...like the tunnel at the whitechapel building?