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    "Charles Allen Cross, a carman, in the employ of Messrs. Pickford, said - On Friday morning I left home at half past three. I went down Parson Street, crossed Brady Street, and through Buck's row. I was alone."

    From one version of Cross' testimony Morning Advertiser 4th September 1888.​



    Clearly, the newspapermen are making mistakes. The most likely case is that he said he walked down Barnsley Street; leaving his house on Doveton Street, moving west across Cambridge Road, along Oxf…


    It's clear (from other mentions on this site) that Parson Street did not or does not exist in relation to Doveton Street and Bucks Row. I've read a few sites claiming the obviously misheard journalist which seems a constant in this case but is Barnsley Street a real alternative? If Barnsley Street is the correct term then it would explain one issue of why Robert Paul did not cross paths with Charles Cross.
    What other explanations are there for Parson Street and this to me seems a rather unlikely route?

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  • #2
    Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
    "Charles Allen Cross, a carman, in the employ of Messrs. Pickford, said - On Friday morning I left home at half past three. I went down Parson Street, crossed Brady Street, and through Buck's row. I was alone."
    Strange to say, there is a single, solitary reference to Parson Street, Bethnal Green in the archives of the Old Bailey (from 1877) but it also appears to be a mistake.

    The context is that it was the location of the Turk's Head Pub, but that was in Brick Lane.

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    • #3
      Wouldn't 'Darling' be more likely to be misheard as 'Parson' than 'Bath' or 'Barnsley'??

      Crossmere could have wrongly called it Darling Street instead of Darling Row

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post
        Wouldn't 'Darling' be more likely to be misheard as 'Parson' than 'Bath' or 'Barnsley'??

        Crossmere could have wrongly called it Darling Street instead of Darling Row
        Not sure what a 'Cockney' accent was like 130 years ago but I can't see how they got Barnsley from Parson. Darling is closer and more appropriate for his route. Goes to show how difficult it is to know what went on with typos, misquotes and mishearing information.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post
          The context is that it was the location of the Turk's Head Pub, but that was in Brick Lane.
          I wonder if Brick Lane was known as Parsons etc to the locals. As a kid I can remember a few streets or businesses called by different names that had usually been passed down from generation to generation. Odd in this instance that Lechmere would know such info since he'd only lived there a short while unless he delivered to Mr Parsons who lived on X street. Hence he referred to it as Parsons street. Not because that was the name of the street but rather the name of someone who lived there.

          Or did he mean the cut through next to St Bart's Church as the 'Parson' would live there? 'I went down the Parson's Street'
          Last edited by Geddy2112; 12-23-2024, 06:45 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
            Goes to show how difficult it is to know what went on with typos, misquotes and mishearing information.
            Indeed. I've seen it seriously suggested, as I'm sure you have, that Crossmere deliberately mumbled at the inquest to obscure his name and address. I haven't seen this same remarkable suggestion extended to include 'Robert Baul.'

            By the way, the following dates to 1883, but might give us some small insight into the state of Darling Row. I'm of the opinion there is no 'missing time' (except what Robert Paul injected into the chronology), but wouldn't having to negotiate the hellscape below in pitch darkness tend to slow one down??

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