writing on the wall

[milchmanuk]

thinking over the graffiti and apron i believe there connected ,
obviously local or man who new area very well to choose a residence of jewish mainly people.
that s the garden path in the clue, it,s not racism he is implying .
and the question why do it, as some have already said.
apron so big it could not be missed.
it was very deliberate.

[Wickerman]

what grafitti? i dont see any in this pic. and if it was so common, why no police mention that in ref to the gsg?

Abby, graffiti is anything written or drawn. I'm sure you can see the chalk lines across those bricks.
Precisely because things are so common, why would they talk about it.

[Abby Normal]

Common enough to be captured in random photo's.

https://www.alamy.com/street-urchins-in-lambeth-london-19th-century-artist-unknown-image60147490.html?imageid=8F00C381-5488-4377-89C2-B00B51AD6C60&p=854931&pn=1&searchId=c56b898919b5fa3cfe0bf13f9ddaf440&searchtype=0

Graffiti is found as far back as Pompeii, it's been part of an urban society since man could write.

what grafitti? i dont see any in this pic. and if it was so common, why no police mention that in ref to the gsg?

[Wickerman]

Common enough to be captured in random photo's.

https://www.alamy.com/street-urchins-in-lambeth-london-19th-century-artist-unknown-image60147490.html?imageid=8F00C381-5488-4377-89C2-B00B51AD6C60&p=854931&pn=1&searchId=c56b898919b5fa3cfe0bf13f9ddaf440&searchtype=0

Graffiti is found as far back as Pompeii, it's been part of an urban society since man could write.

[Filby]

Do people generally attempt to remove offending graffiti or do they tend to write a response (usually in the form of a **** you) right next to it?

c.d.

How common was graffiti in the East End in 1888? I'm serious about this question. I've studied a lot of photos and not really noticed much which I found quite astonishing. Of course I could be entirely wrong, but to me, this makes somewhat of a difference, at least in my mind, as to whether it was happenstance or if not, very possiby written deliberately by JtR post-murders.

[milchmanuk]

hi
so if Jack happened to cut himself or perhaps one of the victims as many show also in the newspapers at the time carry weapons, knifes to defend themselves.
perhaps one cut our Jack back ?
would he of used there knife also in rage once he has control.
and took it as trophy.

[harry]

George,
In answer to your post 197. Maybe.
Having said that,I do not carry a medical kit when I venture forth,in case I am hit by a car.So maybe he didn't.

[GBinOz]

Call me "no-one" if it makes you feel better, but it was in my reply to you in post #196, "the corner of the apron was wet with blood".

Call me "no-two" then, because I was also talking about wet blood, such as that seeping from a bleeding wound that is likely to become infected and require treatment at an infirmary.

[Parisi North Humber]

Although the lVP medical profession couldn't test for differences in blood forensically (wether animal or human etc). I'm sure they would have spotted (excuse the pun) the difference between menstrual and veinal/arterial blood. As such if we are to rely on the medicos they would have made note accordingly. Menstrual blood particularly at the end of a cycle exhibits completely different qualities to veinal/arterial blood and is obvious to the layman's untrained but accustomed eye let alone a trained medical man this is without any forensic testing.

So depending on which side of the fence you sit.... if she was menstruating then the medical men were either negligent or ignorant for not bringing it to attention. And if she wasn't menstruating the medical men were correct by default by not mentioning a thing that was not in existence. I believe lack of reported menstruation was the same with all the C5...however I am happy to stand corrected if it was reported that any were in mensis.
Hope that make sense.

Ooooh ....just a thought, as an aside (and OT sorry) can we read anything into the fact that that none of the ladies were reported as menstruating ? If any were then slap my wrists and I'll sit in the naughty corner for a day lol.

Helen x

[Wickerman]

No one was talking about wet blood the topic was blood stains or blood spots, in case you dont know there is a difference

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Call me "no-one" if it makes you feel better, but it was in my reply to you in post #196, "the corner of the apron was wet with blood".

[Trevor Marriott]

As Abby noticed, I wrote it was Chapman who was missing her scarf, not Eddowes.

well does it matter the killer did not remove her organs either

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[Trevor Marriott]

Absolutely Trevor, a constable was never trained to recognize wet blood when he see's it.....

(good grief!)

No one was talking about wet blood the topic was blood stains or blood spots, in case you dont know there is a difference

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[Trevor Marriott]

yeah PC Plod-you mean the PC who found the only clue the ripper ever left? lol good lord trevor.

The ripper would have had a field day with you. and actually still is!

Was it a clue ? some might not think so

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[Wickerman]

What one person sees as stains, another sees as spots. I am more likely to believe the doctor who is more qualified than Pc Plod

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Absolutely Trevor, a constable was never trained to recognize wet blood when he see's it.....

(good grief!)

[Wickerman]

So the killer wrapped the organs in her scarf, and then decided to cut a piece of her apron and take both away with him

i am glad that you finally accpet the killer did not take away the organs in the apron piece

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As Abby noticed, I wrote it was Chapman who was missing her scarf, not Eddowes.