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  • lynn cates
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    Pst, Hey buddy, want an "Arbeter Fraint"?

    Hello Jon. Thanks.

    "Ahh,...your Arbeter Fraint article?
    (by the way, was this paper free?)"

    It was provided by Chris Phillips from YIVO. Translation runs between $200-$300 (USD) per page. Article was part of 3 pp.

    "Ok, so we have contention between two Inquest witnesses (Wess & Krantz)."

    Perhaps.

    "So, what was the printing office doing printing off a stack of papers? on Saturday night?"

    If I recall properly, Rombro (Kranz) was getting caught up with work.

    "Isn't Saturday the Jewish day of rest?"

    It is indeed. Question: How many of the club members adhered to Orthodox Judaism? Another question: What had club members done for Yom Kippur that infuriated Orthodox Anglo-Jewry?

    "And second, was Mr Deerstalker delivering them?"

    I find that quite likely, although some were given copies to take with them for distribution amongst friends. (Think Jehovah's Witnesses and the "Watchtower.")

    "At 12:30 am, on a Sunday morning?"

    To get to the appropriate news stands? I think that is often an early morning activity. (But see above.)

    "Really?"

    Indeed.

    "I'm still looking for a viable connection."

    From where I sit, quite viable.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Jon. Thanks. Did he not claim to have worked late on the paper?

    Cheers.
    LC
    Hi Lynn.
    Ahh,...your Arbeter Fraint article?
    (by the way, was this paper free?)

    Ok, so we have contention between two Inquest witnesses (Wess & Krantz).

    So, what was the printing office doing printing off a stack of papers? on Saturday night?
    Isn't Saturday the Jewish day of rest?

    And second, was Mr Deerstalker delivering them?
    At 12:30 am, on a Sunday morning?
    Really?

    I'm still looking for a viable connection.


    Regards, Jon S.

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  • lynn cates
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    translator

    Hello Barbara. Thanks. The translator was Dr. Anita Turtletaub.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Beowulf
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Barbara. The pleasure is all mine.

    Enjoy!

    Cheers.
    LC
    Well worth the read. Did you translate this? Thank you for the reference. Really puts you at the scene.

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  • lynn cates
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    You are welcome.

    Hello Barbara. The pleasure is all mine.

    Enjoy!

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Beowulf
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Barbara. Try here.

    Cheers.
    LC

    http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=6489
    Oh, struck gold!

    Thank you. Will take me a while to digest this, but it's wonderful to read an account from the time and place it happened at.

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  • lynn cates
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    A F

    Hello Barbara. Try here.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    work

    Hello Jon. Thanks. Did he not claim to have worked late on the paper?

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Beowulf
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    Did the Arbeter Fraint, being a newspaper, ever print anything about this murder?

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Jon. Of course Jacob Rombro (AKA, Philip Kranz) was in that office as the murder was committed.
    Thanks Lynn, I had noticed that on the face of it this claim may contest the statement of Wess, who said it was all closed up. Wess was afterall the overseer of the printing office.
    Krantz did live at 40 Berner St., but he doesn't say he was at work in his office. Only that he was in "my room", presumably where he was sleeping?

    Regards, Jon S.

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  • lynn cates
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    Someone at home.

    Hello Jon. Of course Jacob Rombro (AKA, Philip Kranz) was in that office as the murder was committed.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by Michael W Richards View Post
    Hello again,

    Jon, the parcel that was described was roughly the size of the paper that was printed in Dutfields Yard, and since there was a printing press in Dutfields Yard,
    ....and since it was closed at that hour, and had been since 2.00 pm in the afternoon, what is the connection between a newspaper parcel carried in the street and the long-closed printing office?

    As all the members were thoroughly interrogated and no-one came forward to exonerate himself as PC Smith's innocent 'suspect', there isn't a good case for the theory. I admit, it is a possibility, but I would have thought only a slender one.

    Yes, I do recall Tom saying the parcel was "roughly" the same size - roughly?
    More to do with the standard size of print paper than anything else. Let me put it this way Michael, when print paper comes in specific sizes, as it does today, how can we use the size as evidence?

    Regards, Jon S.
    Last edited by Wickerman; 08-12-2012, 10:12 PM.

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  • lynn cates
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    description

    Hello Colin. Thanks. The "Arbeter Fraint" is, and looks like, a newspaper. Hence, the description.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Bridewell
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    The Parcel

    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Once that is answered, one looks for confirmatory evidence--like the "Arbeter Fraint's" size. That's hypothetico-deductive procedure. Of course, the initial hypothesis was Tom Wescott's.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Hi Lynn,

    The IWMEC & the Arbeter Fraint office were on P.c. Smith's beat. He would surely be familiar with both the premises and the publication. Why would he describe a bundle of copies of the Arbeter Fraint as "a newspaper parcel", rather than what he knew it to be? The only tentative deduction I would make from the description of the parcel is that it was relatively flat - because only two measurements are given ("about 18 in. in length and about 6 in. or 8 in. in width").

    Regards, Bridewell.

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  • lynn cates
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    It was I.

    Hello Colin. I'm with you. What happened to the lad? Well, if you were in his shoes, would you like to come forward?

    Cheers.
    LC

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