The International Working Mens Association/Wiiliam Wess

[Phil Carter]

Hello Archaic,

99% agree with that lot... I thought that was what I posted?

1%.. interruption. We don't know that. Like you said. Its speculation.

best wishes Archaic

Phil

[lynn cates]

terrorism

Hello Archaic.

"Much of the political and monetary support for the Fenian movement came from Irish Catholic Americans.

I don't think they would keep sending money if they thought it was going to fund the gruesome sexual mutilation of helpless women in Whitechapel."

Well, but has such happened historically? Bombs often have gotten a terrorist's point across.

The best.
LC

[Archaic]

'The Worker's Friend'

Here's a little more info on 'The Worker's Friend' that I've gathered:

The first issue of The Worker's Friend was published on July 15, 1885 and it continued until 1932, although there were a few interruptions.

I found a modern source that says The Worker's Friend was the first "openly socialistic paper to appear in the Yiddish language" and that it was published in Yiddish for an "extended period of time," but unfortunately it does not give further specifics.

I'll see if I can find the pertinent dates for us.

I believe that the Press Record I posted earlier listing the WF as being printed in Hebrew was from 1895. It's possible that the paper was tried in both Yiddish and Hebrew versions at different times, though my understanding is that Hebrew was a much more 'scholarly' language and Yiddish could be read by a larger number of immigrants and working-class people, which presumably is what the IWMA would want.

Best regards, Archaic

[lynn cates]

Munro

Hello Mike. If there's any substance to this, it would help explain Munro's "hot potato" remark, as you suggest.

The best.
LC

[lynn cates]

linguistics

Hello Archaic. There is a world of difference in Hebrew and Yiddish. Yiddish is largely German and, as such, an Indo-European language and read left to right. It can be written largely in English script and completely in German script. Hebrew, however, is NOT an Indo-European language. It is from the Semitic family of languages and is read right to left. It also has a distinct alphabet.

The best.
LC

[Roy Corduroy]

... cause and effect.

Cause and effect is my favorite approach to history. Surveying the history of this era, I find syphilis to be a much more likely cause agent than Socialism or Irish Nationalism in the murder spree. And that includes Stride. A man's anger having contracted the disease from prostitutes, taken out in revenge.

But this is interesting historical background on the Socialists, to be sure. Thank you.

Roy

[Archaic]

The Worker's Friend

Here's some more on The Worker's Friend:

The Worker's Friend began in 1885. It started out as a more "theoretical" paper, but the editors gradually realized that this approach wasn't very popular. After they dropped the complex theorizing and expanded the nature of their content, circulation increased.

It began to be printed at the #40 Berner St location in 1886. By July of 1886 it was being printed weekly. It eventually had readers as far aware as Paris and America.

The paper was very anti-religious and anti-clerical in its outlook. It vehemently opposed all Nationalist movements, including Zionism.
The Worker's Friend often criticized London's Jewish leaders for what it saw as their inability to understand the true plight of poor Jewish workers.

The Worker's Friend often adopted a strongly satirical tone, which angered and offended the mainstream Jewish community.

Best regards, Archaic

[Phil Carter]

Roy,
Thank you!
It is Mike's thread, and it steamrolled along at the start... 30 odd postings in 50minutes.. he deserves all the credit.

I would agree with you in most every other murder case outside JTR, re sexual disease... but Stride's killing is different. And I think that one is just a throat slashing.

best wishes

Phil

[Phil Carter]

Here's some more on The Worker's Friend:


The Worker's Friend often criticized London's Jewish leaders for what it saw as their inability to understand the true plight of poor Jewish workers.

Smells more of anarchy than anything else then.

best wishes

Phil

[Archaic]

'The Worker's Friend''

Hi, Lynn; thanks.

I realize that Yiddish and Hebrew are quite different. I'm simply trying to account for the fact that we have an 1895 Press Report listing stating that the Worker's Friend was printed in Hebrew, and modern sources saying it was printed in Yiddish.
I don't know if one of theses sources is in error, or if the paper was printed in different languages at different times.


Here's a bit more info on the paper:

In April 1891 the Berner St club held a vote and decided that they were to be known as "anarchistic" rather than "socialistic".
This move upset Wess and others very much.

On April 10, 1891 the paper officially announced its "anarchistic" position.

A number of editors and staff members left and the quality of the writing declined. The paper stopped carrying the wide variety of articles it had previously offered. These changes were not popular with the public and readership declined sharply.

In 1892 the Berner Street club location closed, and the paper was in dire straits.

-Cliffhanger!

Best regards, Archaic

[lynn cates]

Yiddish

Hi Archaic.

"I'm simply trying to account for the fact that we have an 1895 Press Report listing stating that the Worker's Friend was printed in Hebrew"

I thought that possible. You are right that one account is wrong, and I'd bet it's the story about Hebrew. Although it's entirely possible that a blurb or two was in Hebrew, most of the writing (indeed, even the name of the paper) suggests Yiddish. That would have been natural for European Jews.

The best.
LC

[lynn cates]

alphabets

Hello Archaic. If you look back at Mike's post #44, you will see an example of Hebrew script--roughly bottom 25% (minus the bottom line or two).

Yiddish looks like English, except English has no double S or umlaut vowels or dipthongs like German script has.

The best.
LC

[Archaic]

1899: 'The Worker's Friend' Announcement For A Lecture by Emma Goldman

Here's an 1899 advertisement from The Worker's Friend announcing a lecture by the famous socialist Emma Goldman.

Apparently this advert is in Yiddish. (Can anybody here verify that? Sorry, I took French.)

The subject of the lecture was 'Tzedakah', 'Charity'.


(Ha ha I just flashed back to college & having to study Emma Goldman in an American History class...
I absolutely love history but I have to admit, I found the socialists very dull. )

Archaic

[Archaic]

My Theory Of History

Cause and effect is my favorite approach to history.

Poor Roy- haven't you heard?


The relationship of Cause and Effect has been scientifically disproved.


Sorry.




Archaic

[lynn cates]

transliteration

Hello Archaic. Well, it seems that Yiddish was originally written in the other script but later transliterated. Try this.

http://www.jewish-languages.org/yiddish.html

Note the similarity to German.

Cheers.
LC