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  • Rob Clack
    Inactive
    • Feb 2008
    • 1708

    #976
    Hi Andy,

    Your right the first one is definitely a lot earlier than the second one. (Don't know what made me think they were). I'm pretty certain the second one is 1944 (if memory serves me right I think the bollards give an indication of at least 1940s) . I was snapping away and didn't photograph the backs as I was running low on batteries so some of the photos I had to rely on my memory.
    The different colour brick work might be due to the second one being painted. I think you can just tell in these close ups also the second one has some writing painted on the brick work.

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    Hi Ade,

    The stable block on the North side of the street is one of my favourite buildings in the area.

    Rob
    Last edited by Rob Clack; 12-04-2008, 11:19 PM.

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    • aspallek
      Inactive
      • Feb 2008
      • 760

      #977
      Hi Rob,

      Yes I think the first photo is probably pre-1920. The second one appears to be 1940's or 1950's, which would be corroborated by the apparent bomb damage.

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      • robhouse
        Inspector
        • Feb 2008
        • 1222

        #978
        Great Photos Rob,

        Where exactly was Winthrop Place, Winthrop Street that you say used to be Nelson Court? Was this running parallel to Woods Buildings Alley?

        Rob H

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        • Rob Clack
          Inactive
          • Feb 2008
          • 1708

          #979
          Hi Rob,

          That's right it's just next to Harrison Barber and Co. Horse Slaughterers. Between being called Nelson Court and Winthrop Place it was also known as Nelson Place.

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          • Rob Clack
            Inactive
            • Feb 2008
            • 1708

            #980
            And this is how it was when the photo was taken.

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            • George Hutchinson
              Inspector
              • Feb 2008
              • 1089

              #981
              Rob - I take it the Wilkes Street ones are of the northern end above the junction with Hanbury Street, now demolished and on the site of the Brewery area? I have some old postcards from the early 1900s sent to someone on Wilkes Street to a number no longer evident.

              Did the northern end come down at the same time at the north side of Hanbury Street do you know?

              Excellent finds, BTW.

              PHILIP
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              • Celesta
                Chief Inspector
                • Feb 2008
                • 1625

                #982
                Hello Rob,

                These are some fine old photos you've come across. Winthrop is not far from London Hospital, right?

                Thanks for posting these.


                Hi Ade,

                Welcome to the CBook.


                Best,

                Cel
                "What our ancestors would really be thinking, if they were alive today, is: "Why is it so dark in here?"" From Pyramids by Sir Terry Pratchett, a British National Treasure.

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                • robhouse
                  Inspector
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1222

                  #983
                  Thanks Rob,

                  I think I have asked before but you dont have one of these Goad maps for Greenfield Street do you? I feel like a broken record, but these maps look realy great.

                  Rob H

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                  • Monty
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 5413

                    #984
                    Originally posted by aspallek View Post
                    Hi Rob,

                    Yes I think the first photo is probably pre-1920. The second one appears to be 1940's or 1950's, which would be corroborated by the apparent bomb damage.
                    Andy, Rob,

                    If you note the bollard, its painted with its blackout markings of black and white stripes used during wartime (some still exisit with that paintwork in the area, Hooper St area if I remember correctly), so that photo was from any time around or after 1939.



                    Monty




                    PS Awesome Rob, as ever.

                    PPS Its just dawned on me...the bollard could have been painted post the building damage.....D'oh, I blame Christmas shopping. Sorry.
                    Last edited by Monty; 12-05-2008, 11:05 AM.
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                    • John Bennett
                      Premium Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1205

                      #985
                      An awesome set of photos, Rob. You been busy.

                      The two pictures of Wilkes Street with the bombed building (with the stripy brickwork) shows No.4.

                      No.4 was built in 1723 by Jean (John) Rondeau who later became sexton of Christchurch Spitalfields. He was buried in the crypt. His decendent, Stanley Rondeau lives near me in North London and works as a volunteer at the church on Tuesdays. In the 1980s, they cleared the crypt and Stanley was able to handle his descendents bones! Spooky.

                      The house was indeed bombed in the war and was replaced by the current building with the 'Suskin' sign on it. It's opposite the entrance to Puma Court.

                      Once again, Rob, excellent finds.

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                      • Rob Clack
                        Inactive
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1708

                        #986
                        Originally posted by Celesta View Post
                        Hello Rob,

                        These are some fine old photos you've come across. Winthrop is not far from London Hospital, right?

                        Cel

                        Hi Cel,

                        Winthrop Street was the next street south off Durward Street (Eastern end) only a short section of it by the board school exists anymore.

                        All the best

                        Rob

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                        • Rob Clack
                          Inactive
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1708

                          #987
                          Originally posted by robhouse View Post
                          Thanks Rob,

                          I think I have asked before but you dont have one of these Goad maps for Greenfield Street do you? I feel like a broken record, but these maps look realy great.

                          Rob H
                          Hi Rob,

                          I only have a 1938 version of the Goads. There is a 1890 and 1899 version held at the British Library but they don't allow you to take photos of them and getting copies is a bit expensive. The best detailed out of the 1890 and 1899 versions is the 1899 one. The 1890 isn't as detailed and just shows basic details.

                          This is part of the 1938 one.

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                          • Rob Clack
                            Inactive
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1708

                            #988
                            Originally posted by George Hutchinson View Post
                            Rob - I take it the Wilkes Street ones are of the northern end above the junction with Hanbury Street, now demolished and on the site of the Brewery area? I have some old postcards from the early 1900s sent to someone on Wilkes Street to a number no longer evident.

                            Did the northern end come down at the same time at the north side of Hanbury Street do you know?

                            Excellent finds, BTW.

                            PHILIP
                            Hi Philip,

                            John beat me to it. On the second Wilkes Street photo. The building on the right which starts 'ME' is on the corner with Fournier Street and should say 'Medical Mission'

                            Rob

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                            • John Bennett
                              Premium Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1205

                              #989
                              I'm particularly interested in the Grey Eagle Street photograph - some of my ancestors, named Laskey, lived at No.35 in the 1860s or 70s. No.35 is the first house on the left in this photo.
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                              Actiully, while I'm name dropping, I found out that I have been teaching the nephew of Dennis and Sandra Esqulant, proprieters of the Golden Heart on Commercial Street. He's an Esqulant, too. And a wee bit naughty.

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                              • Suzi
                                Superintendent
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 2167

                                #990
                                Great pics Rob!

                                Love that 500cc Invalid carriage outside the Surgery!!!

                                Suz xx
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