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  • Phil H
    Superintendent
    • Jul 2010
    • 2362

    #3751
    Rb

    Your pic is a close up and appears almost identical to the more distant image in my photo. Thanks for that.

    I guess the ground must have changed entirely from August 1888, especially in 1920.

    Phil

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    • Rob Clack
      Inactive
      • Feb 2008
      • 1708

      #3752
      If I remember correctly there was a restaurant/cafe on the site in the 20s up to 1940/41? I just had a look at my Goads for 1923 and it's not on there, but it looks like it is there in Leonard Matters photo which is around 1926ish. So I presume the first sort of changes were made around then.

      Rob

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      • Phil H
        Superintendent
        • Jul 2010
        • 2362

        #3753
        Wasn't the westernmost house in Buck's Row/Durward st ("something cottage"?) damaged in the Blitz c 1941? I seem to recall it was demolished as a result.

        I suppose that may have necessitated the resetting of the paving if it had been affected by the blast.

        Phil

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        • Rob Clack
          Inactive
          • Feb 2008
          • 1708

          #3754
          Yes, New Cottage and at least 2 other houses next to it. About three houses altogether I believe. And the same amount in Winthrop Street, the ones that backed onto Durward Street.

          Rob

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          • Lechmere
            Inactive
            • Oct 2010
            • 3450

            #3755
            Phil
            I couldn't help noticing the location of the street lights in your picture.
            One was more or less opposite the murder scene (outsided Essex Wharf) and one a bit further down, probably outside where Schneider's used to be...

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            • Rob Clack
              Inactive
              • Feb 2008
              • 1708

              #3756
              I could have told you that Ed.

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              The one next to Essex Wharf wasn't there in the 1930s.

              Rob

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              • moonbegger
                Sergeant
                • Feb 2012
                • 991

                #3757
                Hello All .

                Great photo's Rob & Phil . There are not to many close-ups of the Nichols murder site .. I took one myself around the mid 80's , but Robs photo manages to retain that Erie and atmospheric gloom surrounding both the Nichol's murder site and the Essex Wharf building . Excellent upload .

                Regarding Phil's photo from the North side of the street shot from behind the bollard .. Would the bollard ( or whatever its called ) be from 1888 or a much later time ?

                cheers .

                moonbegger

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                • Phil H
                  Superintendent
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 2362

                  #3758
                  I have gone through all my collected pictures of Buck's Row/Durward St and still cannot answer your question. I get the impression they were there in the 50s - maybe even in the 20s when Leonard Matters took pictures, but whether they were there in 1888 I do not know.

                  Given the wharehouses along one side of the narrow street, I suppose they might have been - to keep wagons and later lorries away from the walls/pavement.

                  Maybe one of our very knowledgable compatriots on Casebook can provide a better answer.

                  Phil

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                  • moonbegger
                    Sergeant
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 991

                    #3759
                    Hello Phil ,

                    thanks for checking all the same . Do you remember when you took the pic , if you was standing in the entrance to the old wool warehouse ?

                    On checking the CSI book .. I see they have two sitting either side of the Wool warehouse entrance , at roughly the same position your photo was taken . But I suppose they could have been replaced a few times since then.

                    cheers

                    moonbegger .

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                    • Monty
                      Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 5413

                      #3760
                      Something I clocked on the BBC News website this morn.

                      Every police chief in Britain started out as a humble beat officer. Is it time to scrap what some see as an outdated tradition?


                      Monty
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                      Monty

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                      Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

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                      • Bridewell
                        Commissioner
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 4038

                        #3761
                        Winsor

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                        I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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                        • AdamWalsh
                          Detective
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 209

                          #3762
                          Hello everyone! Been a long time, Im still obsessed, but just dont have a good internet connection these days - i.e I dont have one!

                          Anyway - was walking to The Blind Beggar one day last week and was happy to find Woods Buildings gate was open! Never been in, so in I went! Sadly only had my mobile with me, so quality here isnt great but here is a video and two stills from that. I have good video from the graves of the girls Ive visited too but still dont have time to upload them (Im in an internet cafe right now!).

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                          • Archaic
                            Chief Inspector
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1903

                            #3763
                            1927 Color Film of London w/Petticoat Lane, Parks, Traffic, Cricket, etc.



                            The clarity and detail are surprisingly good, but I love how dream-like it is.

                            Enjoy!
                            Archaic

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                            • Robert
                              Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 5163

                              #3764
                              Might not be London, but what wonderful music :



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                              • DVV
                                Suspended
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 6014

                                #3765
                                Superbe

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