All Roads Lead to Dorset St.,

[Sam Flynn]

Then we have the journalists finding out later where the shed was and it looks like that it is this front from of #26 owned by McCarthy.

I'm pretty sure that, if something was referred to as a "shed", it meant precisely that. McCarthy's "shed" wasn't a shed at all, but a room inside a building. If there's any truth in the story of the "Shed Lady", it almost certainly didn't involve the front room of 26 Dorset Street. There must have been other, proper sheds in the vicinity, after all.

[Batman]

I'm pretty sure that, if something was referred to as a "shed", it meant precisely that. McCarthy's "shed" wasn't a shed at all, but a room inside a building. If there's any truth in the story of the "Shed Lady", it almost certainly didn't involve the front room of 26 Dorset Street. There must have been other, proper sheds in the vicinity, after all.

‘the nightly refuge of some ten to twenty houseless creatures who are without the means of paying for their beds'.

That's the shed. Full of ten to twenty of them. All the witnesses are saying is that she was sometimes one of those.

'Shed ladies', plural.

It's obviously the front room of 26 Dorset St., because the journalists at the time pretty much identified it as being that very place.

They did all the work for us.

[DJA]

There is a fair chance the "shed" was the stables owned by Fred and Sam Ball next door at 24 and 25 Dorset Street.

Stride and Kidney seemed to be living at 38 Dorset Street prior to her murder.
Furnished rooms owned by John McCarthy.

Bowyer lived at 37 and there was a coal dealership at 39. All owned by McCarthy.

[packers stem]

Stride is only known to have been in Dorset Street in 1885, three years before the murders. She seems to have spent much of her remaining time in and around St George in the East where, significantly I think, she met her end. .

Stride was living with Kidney up until 12 days before her death
Kidney lived at 38 Dorset street

This desperation to attempt to put distance between the victims I have always found odd
They all lived or had lived within a few doors of each other .They frequented the same pubs ....and virtually lived in them .
Pubs were tiny and most still are, these are not night clubs .
I was in the ten bells on Sunday .... most of it is taken up by the bar .
The horn of plenty would have been tiny , probably the size of someone's parlour
Of course they were well acquainted with each other .It would be ridiculous to think otherwise

[Observer]

Stride was living with Kidney up until 12 days before her death
Kidney lived at 38 Dorset street

This desperation to attempt to put distance between the victims I have always found odd
They all lived or had lived within a few doors of each other .They frequented the same pubs ....and virtually lived in them .
Pubs were tiny and most still are, these are not night clubs .
I was in the ten bells on Sunday .... most of it is taken up by the bar .
The horn of plenty would have been tiny , probably the size of someone's parlour
Of course they were well acquainted with each other .It would be ridiculous to think otherwise

Kidney and Stride lived in Devonshire street, off the Commercial Road prior to Stride leaving him I believe.

[Wickerman]

I'm pretty sure that, if something was referred to as a "shed", it meant precisely that. McCarthy's "shed" wasn't a shed at all, but a room inside a building. If there's any truth in the story of the "Shed Lady", it almost certainly didn't involve the front room of 26 Dorset Street. There must have been other, proper sheds in the vicinity, after all.

This shed is mentioned in the Daily Telegraph, in describing the layout of No.26.

"It has seven rooms, the first-floor front, facing Dorset-street, being over a shed or warehouse used for the storage of costers' barrows."

https://www.casebook.org/press_reports/daily_telegraph/dt881110.html

[packers stem]

Kidney and Stride lived in Devonshire street, off the Commercial Road prior to Stride leaving him I believe.

Kidney gave gave his address as 38 Dorset Street at the inquest .
She was living with him until "Tuesday week"

[Observer]

Kidney gave gave his address as 38 Dorset Street at the inquest .
She was living with him until "Tuesday week"

Crossinghams other Doss House, same side as Miller's Court?

[packers stem]

Crossinghams other Doss House, same side as Miller's Court?

Definitely same side
Dorset street was numbered sequentially
So Chapman and Nichols at 35 were on the same side also .
Was the Horn of plenty in between McCarthy and 35 ?

[MrBarnett]

Definitely same side
Dorset street was numbered sequentially
So Chapman and Nichols at 35 were on the same side also .
Was the Horn of plenty in between McCarthy and 35 ?

The Horn of plenty was on the corner of Crispin Street. No. 38 was McCarthy's, a shop on the ground floor and rooms above, next door but one to the Horn.

[packers stem]

The Horn of plenty was on the corner of Crispin Street. No. 38 was McCarthy's, a shop on the ground floor and rooms above, next door but one to the Horn.

Thanks

[DJA]

Looks like my Tattslotto numbers for next week are .......

25 26 30 33 35 38 and 30 as supp.

[Observer]

It would make sense as the last time he saw Stride was in Commercial Street, as he was returning from work. I wonder how long they had been in Dorset street?

[Sam Flynn]

This shed is mentioned in the Daily Telegraph, in describing the layout of No.26.

"It has seven rooms, the first-floor front, facing Dorset-street, being over a shed or warehouse used for the storage of costers' barrows."
https://www.casebook.org/press_repor.../dt881110.html

Yes, but that's a description of McCarthy's place in connection with the Kelly murder. And good luck fitting 20 or so unfortunates in a front room containing costermongers barrows and God knows what else.

Also, I find it somewhat unlikely that a businessman like McCarthy would leave his stockroom, effectively his house, open as a "drop-in centre" for rough sleepers.

[Sam Flynn]

It's obviously the front room of 26 Dorset St., because the journalists at the time pretty much identified it as being that very place.

Not in connection with the Eddowes murder, they didn't. Even in her case, the unidentified shed only seems to appear in one sentence, in one early report, in one newspaper. And the notion that the front room of #26 was the ONLY "shed" in Dorset Street - or "off" Dorset Street - is rather hard to believe.