Dorset Street Photo

[richardh]

I am sure this photo has already been shared on these forums and all the casebook regulars are aware of it, but I don't recall seeing it before, so I thought I'd put up a link to ask if this is really another view of Dorset Street with Miller's court (by the horse & cart in the far background)?

http://www.sarahwise.co.uk/Images/Dorset%20St%201895%20high%20quality.jpg

Thanks
R

[GUT]

I am sure this photo has already been shared on these forums and all the casebook regulars are aware of it, but I don't recall seeing it before, so I thought I'd put up a link to ask if this is really another view of Dorset Street with Miller's court (by the horse & cart in the far background)?

http://www.sarahwise.co.uk/Images/Dorset%20St%201895%20high%20quality.jpg

Thanks
R

I've seen it before and was told that was Miller's Court, but have no personal knowledge to confirm it. Sorry.

[Sam Flynn]

Here's another image entitled "Dorset St corner with pub"



Sarah Wise (whose website that is) has written extensively about the history of Dorset Street, so I've little doubt that these photos are of what they claim to be. They certainly look right to me.

[MrBarnett]

Here's another image entitled "Dorset St corner with pub"



Sarah Wise (whose website that is) has written extensively about the history of Dorset Street, so I've little doubt that these photos are of what they claim to be. They certainly look right to me.

The man leaning against the bollard appears to have a deformity of his left cheek. Can anyone else see that, or is it my imagination?

[Bridewell]

The man leaning against the bollard appears to have a deformity of his left cheek. Can anyone else see that, or is it my imagination?

I see what you mean. Might it be a bruise perhaps?

[Abby Normal]

great pics! I love these old photos, you really get a sense of what it was like back then.

[MrBarnett]

I see what you mean. Might it be a bruise perhaps?

Yes, It could be.

The lady with the shawl looks a real character.

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

It looks a bit like the Horn of Plenty at the corner of Dorset Street and Crispin Street.



But I don't think it is.

Regards,

Simon

[MrBarnett]

The Hornsey Rise Brewery Co. advertised the freehold of the Horn of Plenty for sale in October, 1890. It's possible that Charringtons took over the pub between the first (1895?) and the second (1912) photo and did some remodelling while adding their livery.

[Robert]

According to this it was a Charrington place in 88 :

http://wiki.casebook.org/index.php/Horn_of_Plenty

[MrBarnett]

My favourite Horn of Plenty story involves Tommy Power, the man with one arm and no legs (or one?) who smashed the place up in 1897

http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=25047&highlight=Power

[richardh]

The 2nd Photo (Charringtons's Fine Ales) looks like a free standing building - there doesn't appear to be a building. The Goad's map of Dorset shows a public house at both ends of Dorset St (on No.13 side) and both are abutting the next building (like the pub in the 1st photo). Also, the Goad's map says that both the public houses at either end of Dorset St are either 3 or 4 levels - Charrington's looks to be 2 levels.

Hi All,

It looks a bit like the Horn of Plenty at the corner of Dorset Street and Crispin Street.

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But I don't think it is.

Regards,

Simon

[Robert]

I wouldn't want to meet him when he had a full set.

[richardh]

Bit confused now!
This picture is described as "Former public house at 5 Crispin Street, on the northern corner with Dorset Street. In 1888, the proprietor was Christopher Bowen and it was a Charrington's house"

and yet the Goad's map states that the PH (public house) in that corner is 4 levels high. The pub in the pic is only 2 levels. Plus Goad's shows the PH has buildings abutting it on both sides, whereas the pic shows a free standing 2 storey building.

http://autumnofterror.com/img/pub.jpg

[Simon Wood]

Hi Richard,

There is always the possibility that neither picture is of the Horn of Plenty.

Regards,

Simon