Dorset Street Photo

[MrBarnett]

The uncropped 1912 image:

[richardh]

Thanks

The Goad map (1888?) shows no. 5 as 4-storied. As I say above, in 1886 it was advertised for sale as a 4-storied warehouse/pub. One possible answer is that sometime between the date of the Goad and 1890, when the freehold of a pub alone is being offered for sale, the original building had been demolished and replaced with a two-storied pub. The original photo is thought be from 1895.

There is no doubt in my mind that the 1912 photo shows the Crispin Street/Duvall Street corner.

Great graphics BTW, Richardh

[richardh]

So, this is the corner of Dorset St and Crispin Street? For sure?

The uncropped 1912 image:

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Are we talking this corner?

[MrBarnett]

So, this is the corner of Dorset St and Crispin Street? For sure?





Are we talking this corner?

I would say so.

[richardh]

Question: In that Goad's map (above), what is the big blue circle (above the 45' mark)?

thanks

[MrBarnett]

Question: In that Goad's map (above), what is the big blue circle (above the 45' mark)?

thanks

A fire hydrant.

[richardh]

Thanks,
assuming it was not removed, would/should a fire hydrant be visible in the photo?

http://forum.casebook.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=18059&d=1495808897

A fire hydrant.

[MrBarnett]

If it was where it appears on the map it would be under the cart.

[GUT]

Probably an in ground hydrant not the big red things Americans think of.

[MrBarnett]

Probably an in ground hydrant not the big red things Americans think of.

Yes, GUT, and probably set into the pavement.

Here's the corner in 1914:

[MrBarnett]

I have a booklet of C. A. Mathew's photos which I obtained from the Bishopsgate institute in 1974. The image of the HoP is a bit clearer than what has been posted and clearly shows the pub had a tiled frontage. This was very much a turn of the century style, and to me the brick detailing on the upper storey also looks late 19th century. So either the pub was heavily refurbished ca 1890 or it was completely rebuilt.

In which case, this may not have been the building in which MJK is said to have drunk.

[Joshua Rogan]

Does anyone else think that the ground floor looks vaguely similar to the nearby Duke of Wellington pub?

http://spitalfieldslife.com/2015/02/26/at-the-duke-of-wellington/

[richardh]

Actually, the updated image is the original! Sorry.

This is the updated image showing the missing building:

Agreed (about the extra building). Perhaps it would look a little like the updated merge, below:

The pub in that merge hasn't been scalped.