Hi Lynn,
I'll make sure you're the first to know.
Regards,
Simon
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Hello Simon.
"If we're playing according to Hoyle, you gotta pay to see my cards."
Then all I can say is, are you taking pre-orders for your book?
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LC
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Hi Lynn,
If we're playing according to Hoyle, you gotta pay to see my cards.
I don't yet know enough about McKenna to make a judgement, but I would venture to suggest that Tumblety was an opportunist and survivor who was far too self-obsessed to align himself with any cause other than one of his own creation, and far too canny to ever make the fatal mistake of paying lip service to the Fenians.
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Simon
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Hello Simon. I do indeed.
Do you think that McKenna was an embarrassment to the Americans? (I mean, by his very existence.)
Is there a Tumblety link? Please feel free to lay your cards out on the table.
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LC
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Hi Lynn,
. . . but not half as much fun.
Interesting that in the NYT 6th June 1888 [post #29] it was being denied that McKenna was ever in Europe, while in the previous day's NYT [post #33] McKenna's departure from France was being reported.
See what I mean?
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Simon
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agreed
Hello Simon. Thanks. I tend to agree. Thomas seems a small time gun runner.
It would be lovely if one could penetrate the entire network of Fenians and Anarcho-socialists. My job would be so much easier.
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LC
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Hi Lynn,
I feel that Thomas Walsh was small beer and not connected in any meaningful way with John Walsh of the Clan-na-Gael, who on 4th June 1888 sailed with McKenna from Le Havre to New York
The name Roger McKenna does appear to be an error. As I mentioned before, everytime I come across him he's referred to as Joseph or Joseph Patrick McKenna.
Here he is again, New York Times, 5th June 1888–
"Joseph Patrick McKenna, a member of the Lodge No. 96 of the Clan-na-Gael of Chicago, is said to have been assisting [John] Walsh. While in Paris McKenna lodged at the Hotel Boulevard St. Michael, registering as John Sylvester . . ."
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Simon
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"Roger" McKenna ..
Thanks for that Simon, and Phil.
The article is very forthright and asks a pretty relevant question. (Why is his name and address and membership of "Clan N G" known in Europe?).
It looks asif MPSB indulging in outing people by leaking to U.S. papers.
Incidentally, McKenna is not mentioned in Alex Butterworth's book.
JOHN RUFFELS.
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Hello Simon,
"Roger" McKenna comes from Andrew Cook's book, above. Where HE got the name from, I do not know, as it seems that Joseph McKenna is the correct name.
Whether THAT name is his real name, however, is another matter.
I wonder what happened to "carroty"?.....
best wishes
Phil
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Hi All,
I'm not certain where the name Roger McKenna comes from as all the references I have list him as Joseph or Joseph Patrick McKenna.
It's interesting that in the following newspaper cutting it was denied that McKenna was ever in Europe. Mind you, as much of the police shenanigans going on around the time of the WM and Special Commission were of a shady, if not downright illegal, nature it's hard to get a firm grasp on the truth.
NY Times, 6th June 1888–
I've got an artist's sketch of Moroney which I'll dig out and post.
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Simon
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Hello Phil. Thanks. I shall broaden my search.
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LC
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McKenna
Hello Lynn,
According to Clutterbuck, there are entries referring to McKenna the the Chief Constable's register, but name him as Joseph McKenna, not Roger.
These are references probably from Melville as they refer to his actions in France.
" McKenna, Joseph -description of sent to ports"
" McKenna, Joseph -suspect under observation in Paris"
best wishes
Phil
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McKenna
Hello Phil. I have been searching for McKenna; but, so far, to no avail. Will continue.
Cheers.
LC
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Moroney
Hello all,
Here is the link to the arrest of John J Moroney. New York Times, 12th June 1889.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstrac...609C94689FD7CF
He travelled back to New York on the 17th September 1888, with a Miss Kennedy, who was arrested for smuggling.
best wishes
Phil
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