Interpreting Conflicting Evidence

[c.d.]

Hello CD. If Mitre sq were a spur of the moment thing to allay frustration (as many think), perhaps location is not always important?

Cheers.
LC

Hello Lynn,

Rather than location, location, location it might have been location, location. I don't find a spur of the moment decision by a serial killer to be out of the ordinary. Paranoia can ebb and flow and there might have been times when he was more willing to take a chance.

c.d.

[lynn cates]

blood stains

Hello Phil, CD, Chris and Greg. I appreciate your contributions. Here's an interesting one from Phoenix Park. After a good deal of surveillance, the police located 2 knives hidden in a loft, and linked to the murders. The coroner found a bit of "dried blood" on the tip of one, and both were surgical knives.

Case closed?

Not quite. After Carey turned Queen's evidence, he informed them that those were similar to, but not identical with, the ones actually used. The "dried blood"? Merely a spot of rust. (Needless to add that the coroner had a good bit of egg on his face afterwards.)

What are the odds?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

could be

Hello CD. Just so. Nothing's off the table.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

spelling

Hello Cd. Actually, there is nothing quite like correct spelling--as in Queen's English.

Cheers.
LC

[GregBaron]

Incompetence Abounds...

No that would be us Ripperologists who are hallucinating over too many stale porters, sweating over bad information about a case with too much poor documentary evidence.

Good one Chris and undoubtedly true...

Hello CD. Perhaps a bit of both, then?

c.d. I agree with Lynn here..........they knew......he knew

Hello Greg. She could indeed. But there was one other witness who thought "MJK" was alive early that morning.

Well Lynn, mass hallucinations are harder to explain but history has taught us that eyewitness descriptions are about as reliable as Keith Richards in a pharmacy...

P.S. I noticed in a previous post that you spelled favor "favour". Is that your Scottish background kicking in?

Yes c.d., beware of these Euros who haven't yet dumbed down the language so that Americans(like myself) can understand...

Hello Phil, CD, Chris and Greg. I appreciate your contributions. Here's an interesting one from Phoenix Park. After a good deal of surveillance, the police located 2 knives hidden in a loft, and linked to the murders. The coroner found a bit of "dried blood" on the tip of one, and both were surgical knives.

Case closed?

Not quite. After Carey turned Queen's evidence, he informed them that those were similar to, but not identical with, the ones actually used. The "dried blood"? Merely a spot of rust. (Needless to add that the coroner had a good bit of egg on his face afterwards.)

What are the odds?

Thanks Lynn. I'm afraid such occurrences are more frequent than realized. Remind me when I have more time to regale you with the performance of the Atlanta Keystone Cops after a mass murder a few years ago...



Greg

[c.d.]

Hello Cd. Actually, there is nothing quite like correct spelling--as in Queen's English.

Cheers.
LC

Well I say if it ain't 100% red, white and blue English then the hell with it.

c.d.

[c.d.]

Have to go now. There is actually some sunshine outside now and I want to take advantage of it before we get nailed by the hurrincane. Enjoy the day, gents.

c.d.

[lynn cates]

heh-heh

Hello Greg. I'd be delighted to hear.

Keith Richards in a pharmacy? Good one!

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

Rule Brittania

Hello CD.

"Well I say if it ain't 100% red, white and blue English then the hell with it."

Red, white and blue? Hmm, sounds like the Union Jack. (heh-heh)

Enjoy the sunny weather before the storm

Cheers.
LC

[GregBaron]

JI to the Seaside Home...

"Well I say if it ain't 100% red, white and blue English then the hell with it."

You must know Lynn that c.d. considers you to be of Scottish origin, which he apparently considers an unpardonable offense...

Enjoy the sunny weather before the storm

Yes, the Northeastern U.S. is about to be pounded for its obvious sins....good to be a Southerner for a change...



Now back on topic (sort of). If a cop(Thicke?) suspected Isenschmid I can't for the life of me understand why they didn't pull a Seaside Home on him with Mrs. Long starring as Lawende....I know the double event threw them into a tizzy but still...........I think I remember that some Doctor prevented it but can't the cops overrule the Doctor in such a case? I'm dumbfounded....

Greg

[lynn cates]

the story

Hello Greg.

"If a cop (Thicke?) suspected Isenschmid I can't for the life of me understand why they didn't pull a Seaside Home on him with Mrs. Long starring as Lawende....I know the double event threw them into a tizzy but still...........I think I remember that some Doctor prevented it but can't the cops overrule the Doctor in such a case?"

Yes. Dr. W.J. Mickle forbade the police from putting Isenschmid into an identity parade before Mrs. Long and Mrs. Fiddymont and her companions.

Override? That would be difficult since the police gave Isenschmid into the custody of the Islington Workhouse infirmary and later Grove Hall lunatic asylum. They were then in charge until such time as the doctors saw fit to allow an identification.

(Scottish, unpardonable offense? CD is English, perhaps? heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[Trevor Marriott]

Hi Lynn
Regarding The Phoenix Park Murders I can tell you that Special Branch still have a file on this case locked away in their archives.

[lynn cates]

Molony's book

Hello Trevor. Thanks.

Yes, and the case is rather transparent. It is fascinating that one can actually follow Mallon's thought processes, the clever as well as the not so clever. That is why I am so high on Molony's book--he has painstakingly reproduced all this. I highly recommend it.

Cheers.
LC

[Roy Corduroy]

police gave Isenschmid into the custody of the Islington Workhouse infirmary and later Grove Hall lunatic asylum

Lynnard, a photo of Grove Hall is here (click) at the Idea Store.
4th row down in the middle.

RC

[lynn cates]

archive

Hello Roy. Thanks, as always.

Say, I wonder if that Tower Hamlets library and archive include any of Dr. Mickle's notes/correspondence? I've searched everywhere else.

Cheers.
LC