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Hi Jukka,
oh yes...Sometimes I even think I know why...!
Amitiés,
David
oh yes...Sometimes I even think I know why...!
Amitiés,
David
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Peter,Originally posted by PC Roadnight View PostI think the normal Police Constable in those days would carry around a whistle(only used on night shift), a lance wooden stave, a pair of iron cast shackles, and a lantern.
Please add any thought that come to mind. I will be reopening this thread every now and then if it dissapears off the board.
yours truly
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Corey,
The whistle (to be blown 3 times) was used mainly during the day. The Instruction Book stated that, "an officer requiring assistance at night should expose his lantern three times in the direction in which he might expect another officer to be patrolling." Needless to say in the days before personal radios you blew your whistle like hell and kept on blowing whenever you needed it!
Lanterns were carried on night duty mostly except during the winter when they were also issued for early and late shifts. The belt had a leather oversleeve to protect the uniform from lamp oil and heat. Wooden truncheons were issued, but I believe cuffs were purchased by individual officers, they certainly were before WW2.
Peter
Thank you for that. I truly appriciate it.
Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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David,
To me it doesn't matter. Jack the Ripper did have a fantasy, but he killed them, not involentarily, he had a choice. He is still liable for his actions.
Thus, he is a coward. Fantasy or not, he choose to kill vulnerable women, women who were poor and, at times, homeless.
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING will ever justify what he did.
Yours trulyWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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David,
He was a coward, how is that insulting?
I never said you were trying to justify, I only stated that NOTHING will ever right his wrong.
He is a evil man and will always remain such. ANY man who kills women is a coward. That is only my opinion.
Yours trulyLast edited by corey123; 02-09-2010, 04:33 AM.Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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No Corey,
you don't know whether he was a coward or not.
Ed Kemper killed women. Does it mean he did so because he would have been scared to kill men ?
No. We don't know.
Cowardice and bravery have nothing to do with serial murder, as you very well know, since you're fond of profiling.
That's all I'm saying.
And saying so, I do not mean for a moment that this would justify any murder.
Gilles de Rais was a very brave man. It's well known. A very brave warrior.
But he killed hundreds of children.
Hope I made myself clear.
Amitiés,
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David,
I am aware of how serial killers act and feel.
I have a strong hatred for ANY killer that hunts women.(thats about 90% of the serial killer population)
Jack was fearless(not wholly so, but close) and probally was very strong.
I understand what you said.
Still, I never said you tryed to justify the murders.
Yours trulyLast edited by corey123; 02-09-2010, 04:45 AM.Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Women as victims
Hello All
From a previous post of mine:
"Found this while trying to answer the question of women victims of serial killers:
Women account for as much as 67% of the victims in serial murders.
In studies of sexually sadistic criminals, it was reported that 73% of the
offenders only victimized females, compared with 17% who only victimized
males. Ten percent victimized both genders.
Dr. Kelley Kline, Applied Behaviour Analysis Faculty. Psychology Dept. Florida State University"
Best Regards
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Edward,
Thank you. In the time of the Ripper, it seems that every serial killer we had active killed women. Jack the Ripper, the Torso Killer, Chapman, the Lambeth Poisoner(Cream), and others.
No, not off topic. Its scary to know that the majority population who are targeted by serial offinders are White Females.
Awful stuff.
Yours trulyWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Hi Corey,
Recall Abberline received a walking stick for retirement. So did PC 799 Henry Taylor of 5th Division, City of London. From the City Press Jan 19, 1898
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Roy,
Do you know when the picture of the Met shown in this thread was taken?Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Corey,
If you are referring to this one then 1889.
Monty
Attached FilesMonty
https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif
Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622Comment
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Hi Monty,
No, not that one. This one.
Yours trulyAttached FilesWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Apologies.
There is no definate date, just circa 1888. I say couple of years earlier due to the fact I cant see any whistles whichvis always a good indicator of date. However I could be wrong.
Out of interest, its a shot of H Division taken at Leman Street station.
Monty
Monty
https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif
Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.
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Hi Monty,
Thank you. I appriciate it.
Yours trulyWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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