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Amitiés,
David
Amitiés,
David
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Metropolitan and City police sprecial reports.
Hello all,
I thought about scanning all my police reports( I have 11 full facsimilies of the originals. The longests, I think is one by Inspector Abberline, or maybe one of the reports by D.D.S is longer? I would have to count the pages in each.
) which haven't been all posted on here.
However, sadly, whenever I scan them, they excead the size limit posted on this site.
SorryWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
Stratford-on-AvonComment
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Cut them into pieces, Corey.
Rip them up.
Amitiés,
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David,
Heck no. I love them.
But the pictures are WAY over the posting size limited on these forums.
Good thought though.Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Police Beats
Here is a wonderful representation of the two crossed police beats made by Andrew Firth(used in his book, past traces(Wounderful book by the way)). Showing the police beats of P.C Harvey and Watkins. It just gives to show how risky the location for this murder was.
Yours trulyAttached FilesWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Here is my collection of Whitechapel CID.(Stewart and Skinner)
Yours trulyAttached FilesWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Hello corey123!
Cannot help being curious;
Do you think, that the Ripper loved the danger of being caught?!
Or was a coward, trying to avoid it?!
All the best
Jukka"When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"Comment
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Jukka,
Odd thread to ask this question, but I will answer it.
I, personally, think he was a narcissistic indavidual, he would have loved ,beyond understandment, the attention his murders were getting. I don't think he would want to get caught, shown by the carefulness exicuted in his murders.
I wouldn't say he was a coward because he was trying not to get caught, but a coward for killing prostitute women.
Yours trulyWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Intresting collection of photo's
Is it me or do they all look like they are related ? no wonder the police could'nt rely on identity parades in those days, every male looked the same.Comment
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Spygalss,
Indeed they are interesting. They are related in one way, they all belong to the Whitechapel CID H-division.
The criminal investiagtive department.
Yours trulyWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Hi Corey,Originally posted by corey123 View Post
see what you mean and you're right.
Easier to kill poor Kate than to disrespect my sister...!
That said, I do not believe for one moment that the Ripper was a coward.
His victims were vulnerable preys, I agree, but I have a gut feeling that he was ready to face anybody... Watkins, Davis, Diemshitz...whoever...
Most of us think he was an unknown local... And I would add : an unknown badman from the East End.
Amitiés,
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David,
I think Jack the Ripper would try to avoid trouble like that, but I agree, I doubt he would have any trouble killing a man.
However, any man that kills or even hurts a woman(who doesn't desever it(no one deserves to die)) is a coward in my book.
Yours trulyWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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I think the normal Police Constable in those days would carry around a whistle(only used on night shift), a lance wooden stave, a pair of iron cast shackles, and a lantern.
Please add any thought that come to mind. I will be reopening this thread every now and then if it dissapears off the board.
yours truly
By phil Carter:
Corey,
The whistle (to be blown 3 times) was used mainly during the day. The Instruction Book stated that, "an officer requiring assistance at night should expose his lantern three times in the direction in which he might expect another officer to be patrolling." Needless to say in the days before personal radios you blew your whistle like hell and kept on blowing whenever you needed it!
Lanterns were carried on night duty mostly except during the winter when they were also issued for early and late shifts. The belt had a leather oversleeve to protect the uniform from lamp oil and heat. Wooden truncheons were issued, but I believe cuffs were purchased by individual officers, they certainly were before WW2.
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Indeed, Corey,Originally posted by corey123 View Post
but this has little to do with our killer.
Jack killed and mutilated women because of his horrible fantasy...
It doesn't indicate any cowardice.
AmitiésComment
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Hello David!
And let's think about that, that the worst mutilation took place indoors!
All the best
Jukka"When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"Comment
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