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  • Simon Wood
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 5552

    #1

    Daniel Halse

    Hi All,

    I don't know about you, but I've always imagined DC Daniel Halse, [City of London Detective 607], to be in his late 20s/early 30s. He was, in fact, 45 years old at the time of the WM, the same age as Abberline.

    Here are his family details from the 1881 [LDS] Census Records—

    Daniel Halse, Head, 38, Abbots Langley, Hertford, England, City Police Constable

    Margaret J. Halse, Wife, 40, Taunton, Somerset, England, Constable's Wife

    Virginie Tabourit, Niece, 11, (BS), France, Scholar

    Dwelling, 28 Jewin Crescent, London, Middlesex, England.

    Margaret Jane Halse's maiden name was Evans. She married Halse in September 1875.

    Virginia Evans Tabourit died, aged 17, in December 1886 [BMD Index].

    Throughout the 1870s there was an Inspector Halse, M [Southwark] Division. I do not know if they were related.

    Regards,

    Simon
    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.
  • Monty
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 5414

    #2
    Simon

    Ive always had him as middle aged. He is almost certainly pictured in the Snow Hill photo of circa 1887 and the earlier one. Front row shows CID in their finest. Question is which one is Dan?
    Monty

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    Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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    • Simon Wood
      Commissioner
      • Feb 2008
      • 5552

      #3
      Hi Monty,

      Can you point me to this photograph?

      Regards,

      Simon
      Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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      • m_w_r
        Detective
        • Feb 2008
        • 410

        #4
        Hi folks -

        It might not help much, but Halse (d.o.b. 19 May 1842) was 5'8" tall, with brown eyes, dark hair and a dark complexion.

        Regards,

        Mark

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        • Monty
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 5414

          #5
          Simon

          I shall PM you.
          Monty

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          Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

          http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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          • Simon Wood
            Commissioner
            • Feb 2008
            • 5552

            #6
            Hi Monty,

            Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha.

            Thanks for your 4 PMs.

            And thank you, Mark.

            I shall study the photograph in JtR:SYI and try to pin the tail on the donkey.

            The trouble is: all the cops look the same to me.

            Regards,

            Simon
            Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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            • m_w_r
              Detective
              • Feb 2008
              • 410

              #7
              Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
              I shall study the photograph in JtR:SYI and try to pin the tail on the donkey.
              Simon, Monty -

              Which page are we looking at?

              Regards,

              Mark

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              • Monty
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 5414

                #8
                Simon

                Yeah, sorry bout that. Wasnt sure if the mail went. If its any help, the photographer has placed the constables etc in almost identical positions in both photos.
                Monty

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                Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                • Stephen Thomas
                  Chief Inspector
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1728

                  #9
                  What the hell is going on here?
                  allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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                  • Monty
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 5414

                    #10
                    Mark

                    Page 232. Its a photo of the City boys around 1887. Harvey is noted. Halse should be there as should Watkins. There is another earlier photo, taken on the same spot with almost the same personel. This is in Richard Jones new Casebook, p24 or 26. I may have some news on these photos, pending research.
                    Monty

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                    Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                    • m_w_r
                      Detective
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 410

                      #11
                      Thanks Monty.

                      I don't know - none of them look particularly swarthy to me...

                      I look forward to seeing the results of your research.

                      Regards,

                      Mark

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                      • Howard Brown
                        *
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 770

                        #12
                        Montpelier:

                        If you could,would you please send me a copy of that photo at your leisure?

                        By the way,kittycats...there's NINE pages of material relative to Halse sitting down at the City Of London Police archives. I asked about Halse some time back but couldn't swing the dosh.

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                        • Simon Wood
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 5552

                          #13
                          Hi All,

                          Does anyone know if DC Daniel Halse [City of London policeman 607] was related to Mr. R.C. Halse, City of London Alderman and Deputy Governor of The Irish Society, which managed the City Corporation's estates in Londonderry and Coleraine?

                          Regards,

                          Simon
                          Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                          • pearlyanna
                            Cadet
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 45

                            #14
                            Hi Simon,
                            while I have not, so far ,found any connection to either M. or R.C. Halse, this may interest you

                            According to the 1851 census Daniel Halse's parents were.,

                            Thomas Halse b,1800, Bovington,Abbots Langley,Paper Mailer, and His wife Maria
                            he had two brothers.,
                            William, b1830, Bovington and
                            James, b 1836 Abbots Langley

                            James went on to be a Paper Stainer
                            but according to 1881 census.,
                            William Halse, b 1829, Bovington was a
                            Superannuated Inspector of London Metropolitan Police.

                            Sorry to be a bit sketchy but we have high winds here in Spain and we keep having blackouts, have allready tried to post this once.

                            Anna

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                            • Simon Wood
                              Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 5552

                              #15
                              Hi Pearlyanna,

                              Many thanks for the information.

                              Do you know anything about the Tabourit connection?

                              Regards,

                              Simon
                              Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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