How Are The Mighty Fallen

[Stewart P Evans]

Interested

My understanding is that there was an original hard core in the late 70's 80's. Obviously headed by Fido's larger than life presence. But Simon was one of these, along with Richard Jones (you do know he is twice my age? dont let the new labour tie fool you) and Paul Begg. If I have this wrong I'm happy to be corrected
Pirate

As far as I know Martin didn't get interested until 1985. I didn't see any of them in 1967 when I photographed the sites and did some research at the London Hospital Library.

[Stewart P Evans]

Hard Core

My understanding is that there was an original hard core in the late 70's 80's. Obviously headed by Fido's larger than life presence. But Simon was one of these, along with Richard Jones (you do know he is twice my age? dont let the new labour tie fool you) and Paul Begg. If I have this wrong I'm happy to be corrected
Pirate

The 'hard core' as you term it did not evolve until the late 1980s. There were no 'cores' that I know of in the 1970s - just authors and researchers. As far as I know Martin and Paul didn't get pro-actively involved until the 1980s, but no doubt if you know better you'll soon let me know.

[Stewart P Evans]

Puerile

Im not talking about published records. Im talking about these messageboards.
Read more about Anderson than myself? Hold on until I undo my flies and start a pissing competition with you.
...

I see, we now descend to the puerile - that's me done with this poster.

[Jeff Leahy]

Richard Jones? You mean when he was like 8 years old? My only point is that when Stewart Evans was an unknown entity in the Ripper world, Simon was known and Evans would have known of him by reputation. Stewart's book came out in 1995 and the Casebook started the following year, so most of the posters to the Casebook developed our strong interest in the case following that time, therefore, from Stewart's point of view, it's a rare and valued thing to have someone still contributing to the case who was doing so long before himself. Of course, I have no idea of what I'm talking about, just babbling on.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

My understanding is that there was an original hard core in the late 70's 80's. Obviously headed by Fido's larger than life presence. But Simon was one of these, along with Richard Jones (you do know he is twice my age? dont let the new labour tie fool you) and Paul Begg. If I have this wrong I'm happy to be corrected

Pirate

[Tom_Wescott]

Richard Jones? You mean when he was like 8 years old? My only point is that when Stewart Evans was an unknown entity in the Ripper world, Simon was known and Evans would have known of him by reputation. Stewart's book came out in 1995 and the Casebook started the following year, so most of the posters to the Casebook developed our strong interest in the case following that time, therefore, from Stewart's point of view, it's a rare and valued thing to have someone still contributing to the case who was doing so long before himself. Of course, I have no idea of what I'm talking about, just babbling on.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Jeff Leahy]

Jeff,
I am only to happy to apologise to Paul . OK, Paul,you did not say ,"Anderson would not lie" . My sincere apologies .

Thank you, that will do for now

Pirate

[Jeff Leahy]

A little known fact is that although Stewart had an interest in the Ripper murders back in the 60's, it wained, and he did not begin his Ripper/true crime obsession in earnest until about 1986, only 9 years before the Lodger came out. Simon on the other hand was publishing on the Ripper way back in the 1970's.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Hi Tom

Yes, there appears to have been an 'old Skool' collective of which Simon was a part. Richard Jones also...

All i can say is 'Respect' I wish i was there. I don't wish to give the impression that I'm not grateful for what these guys did? 'on the shoulders' and all that. My natural instincts are that of a fan!

Pirate

[Tom_Wescott]

However Both Paul and Stuart claim he is something called 'OLD SCHOOL'

A little known fact is that although Stewart had an interest in the Ripper murders back in the 60's, it wained, and he did not begin his Ripper/true crime obsession in earnest until about 1986, only 9 years before the Lodger came out. Simon on the other hand was publishing on the Ripper way back in the 1970's.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Natalie Severn]

Jeff,
I am only to happy to apologise to Paul . OK, Paul,you did not say ,"Anderson would not lie" . My sincere apologies .
Nevertheless ,the thrust of Paul"s argument in "The Facts" certainly leads the reader to draw the conclusion that Anderson was there,and even if he lied over other matters, Anderson would not have lied regarding Jack the Ripper .
Ally put it so well tonight, I wont repeat it, as its there to read a few posts back. Clearly Anderson could have lied over this matter---maybe under the misguided notion that he was protecting the reputation of the police, who knows, but I know and you know and Paul knows that it was no "definitely ascertainable fact", and that was a lie for a start.

Anderson might well have "been there" --- though he seemed always to be on holiday when the murders happened!
Anyway , in his chapter on Kosminski , Paul says, he was there and he was " in a position to know" ? Strange then that Henry Smith states emphatically that nobody knew then or twenty years later who the ripper was.Abberline says similar things in 1903. Why would these men ---and others, lie ,if in fact it was known ?

[Ally]

Hey Elphaba Thropp,

Do you offer spanking vouchers?

Yes but they are redeemed by my flying monkeys.


O.A.R=Old, Ancient Rippersaurs
All up the creek without a paddle.

[Phil Carter]

[QUOTE 'secret cabal'[/QUOTE]

Their main weapon is surprise. Just suprise.

best wishes

Phil

[Simon Wood]

Hi Jeff,

"I have NOT a clue what Simon is going on about."

No surprises there, then.

Ask Screwtape.

Regards,

Simon

[Jeff Leahy]

Zounds, Stewart!

You swore on Robert Anderson's sacred salt-cellar from Tsarevitch Nicholas that under pain of death you would never reveal the existence of our fraternity.

Hey Wormwood,

Tell Screwtape to watch this space.

Hey Elphaba Thropp,

Do you offer spanking vouchers?

Hey Nats,

Never mind. My next question is merely a fantasy . . .

Hey Tom,

Boats aside, you are molto perspicace. Pazienza, caro ragazzo.

Regards,

Simon [O.A.R.]

Hi Tom

I have NOT a clue what Simon is going on about. However Both Paul and Stuart claim he is something called 'OLD SCHOOL' I'm not certain if that means "OLD SCHOOL" in the music/ drug culture sence? But I think us 'KIDS" have to except this statement ?

Pirate

PS Norma, you are out of order! Begg has never said Anderson would NOT lie! you know this but continue with your false claim. Either provide proof or apologuize. I'm NOT going to let this one go! so we have a long week ahead of us!

Pirate

[Tom_Wescott]

Boats aside, you are molto perspicace. Pazienza, caro ragazzo.

Please, speak American.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Natalie Severn]

[QUOTE=jason_c;130130]Im not talking about published records. Im talking about these messageboards.

Read more about Anderson than myself? Hold on until I undo my flies and start a pissing competition with you.





Do try and behave Jason..........

....you better watch out too or the men in white coats will be arriving with the hurry up cart for you next if you start talking like that.......!