Did he have anatomical knowledge?

[lynn cates]

well spoke

Hello Damaso. Thanks for that intro.

"the poster Lynn Cates is famous. . ."

Err, infamous, perhaps?

". . . for his claim that Eddowes (and also Stride and Kelly, but that's not unique) were done by a different hand from Chapman and Nichols. His major arguments for this are: the Eddowes mutilation was considered "less skillful". . .)

Correct.

". .. (implicit there is the assumption that Nichols and Chapman WERE skillfully mutilated). . ."

Actually, that's not an assumption. Baxter (rightly or wrongly) said as much.

". . . that there were differences in how Eddowes was killed and cut (cut up versus down, one throat cut instead of two, no sign of strangulation). He has a few others, but they don't relate to the mechanics of ripping."

Bravo. Well spoke.

"Further, Lynn also suspects that Chapman and Nichols were killed by a madman who was observing horse butchering, and replicating what he had seen done to horses on prostitutes."

Correct again. But I also think that he was shaking down prostitutes for loose change. When refused, I think he lashed out like an angry child. Note the strangulation attempt on his wife.

If I die suddenly, you may certainly have my mantle (of course, it's a bit mouldy and in need of cleaning--heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

up she goes

Hello Errata.

"Do we know for absolute sure that she was cut upwards instead of downwards?"

Only if Dr. brown were correct. Of course, other cuts were in and down.

Do you have Stewart's "Ultimate"?

Cheers.
LC

[The Good Michael]

Hello Michael.

"suggest that the crude anatomical knowledge of the murderer seems to exonerate butchers who would have been much better than surgeons at evisceration because they did it daily"

Well, what KIND of butcher? Just as a home builder may or may not know a certain operation with building a house, so also with butchers. Some were mere slaughterers, some did cutting up. I presume there were further sub-specialties.

In my mind a slaughterer is a different operation. A butcher who worked for oneself would have had to know exactly how to maximize the product's value, wasting nothing. The hand that did such a thing had to be sure and strong I suppose...and he knew where the organs were most assuredly for several different animals. This being said, I suggested a long time ago that anyone living in such conditions as in the East End probably had done a fair amount of butchery. My own father who owned a construction company, butchered the occasional cow, sheep, and game animal. It wasn't often, but he didn't hesitate to do it when the meat was needed.

Mike

[lynn cates]

Polly

Hello Jon.

"Eddowes had too many layers on to just push the clothing up."

But what of Polly? She had more than one layer but hers was pulled up.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

Way, hey, up she rises.

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"With all due respect to Lynn, I have never understood this claim, we have the cut clearly described as beginning at the breastbone."

Look at "The Ultimate" p. 223, top line. "The incision went upwards."

Cheers.
LC

[Sally]

Prosector:

I think you have to take account of circumstances. All the of the first 4 canonicals were done ion a hurry in difficult circumstances. Not surprising that there were some differences in technique and quite a lot of evidence of being rushed.

Yes - absolutely. I think that's quite often overlooked.

[lynn cates]

Dear Boss

Hello Prosector. I just saw your opinion on the "Dear Boss."

What leads you to believe it is authentic?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

different hands

Hello Trevor.

"Notwithstanding two different ways were used to remove both victims uteri that suggests two different people."

Absolutely.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

The eyes have it.

Hello Jon.

"It is likely worth remembering though that both at the Chapman Inquest (Sept. 19th), and in the press (20th-22nd), conjecture had been voiced concerning photographing the eyes of the victim.

I suspect this is the reason he sliced the eyelids with Eddowes. He may have just assumed the cuts were deep enough to penetrate through to the eyeball."

Now you're talking!

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

multi-talented

Hello Michael. Thanks.

Multi-talented? Well, maybe Cris Malone.

Of course, there are general people and specialists. Hard to be sure.

Cheers.
LC

[Jon Guy]

Hi Lynn

Hello Jon.

"Eddowes had too many layers on to just push the clothing up."

But what of Polly? She had more than one layer but hers was pulled up.

What Nichols was wearing that August evening does not compare to what Eddowes was wearing, especially what she had tied around her waist.

[lynn cates]

pocket

Hello Jon. Thanks.

Annie, too, had a pocket. But her clothes were pulled up.

Cheers.
LC

[Jon Guy]

Annie, too, had a pocket. But her clothes were pulled up.

Again, Chapman wore little in comparison to Eddowes, and of course in Eddowes case, the killer had now increased the mutilations to include the sternum so the clothes had to be pushed up that bit further.

[Trevor Marriott]

Hello Trevor.

"Notwithstanding two different ways were used to remove both victims uteri that suggests two different people."

Absolutely.

Cheers.
LC

But not at the crime scene lol

[lynn cates]

new departure

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"the killer had now increased the mutilations to include the sternum"

Ah, yes. Another first.

Cheers.
LC